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There's actually tons of DRM-free paid content on Scribd. DRM is just an option.


That's a really cogent analysis.


The whole story about Rowling and her lawyers "going after," "attacking," or "suing" Scribd is a British tabloid fabrication. http://blog.scribd.com/2009/03/30/what-ever-happened-to-fact...


"Also – our CEO is named Trip Adler, not Trip Adkins." big lols.


Your good intentions are well appreciated, but Scribd is the only site of its kind with a working copyright filter that has to check every single document uploaded against literally tens of thousands of document “thumbprints.” If you had any idea of the amount of content that is blocked, you would take a less condescending attitude toward the uphill battle we fight against illegal activity.

There are literally hundreds of copies of Stephenie Meyer books (”Twilight”, etc) that are blocked EVERY DAY, same with Harry Potter, dummies books, etc.

Sure, someone’s going to run a query and find an exception and will post their ‘gotchas’ here. And yes, everyone has an opinion about what Scribd should be doing to combat infringing users. And someone will upload a copyrighted book, and will post their “See?! They STEAL!!” comments before the copyright filter finds it. They always do.

But the fact is Scribd is doing far more than any of our competitors in this area. We have a far more responsive and effective copyright policy than any of our competitors. As a result, Scribd has more deals with major publishers than any of our competitors.


It matters if you're trying to build a good reputation for your startup in the public marketplace. As much as we like to think that it's all about the code, these public perception things matter. Ill-considered comments - and even well-meaning comments that have the tone-deaf dissonance of stock boilerplate - have a direct, adverse effect on the public's image of your company. If you run a company like Justin.tv, that should matter to you, regardless of your personal feelings about the suicide itself. That may seem calculated and political, but it's a reality in the unpure world of business.


He's not talking about the incident. He's talking about the CEO's bad response, and the deafening silence since.


He >:-0.

And yes, I was not referring to the actual incident, but rather the response.


A kid broadcasts his death on your service, allegedly egged on by your community, and your CEO statement falls back on cut-and-paste boilerplate?

Do better. Fast.


>> your CEO statement falls back on cut-and-paste boilerplate? >>

You HAVE to fall on boilerplate or you will be crucified, by your lawyer if no one else. You just have to pick the right boilerplate:

If what you say has happened, that is a terrible tragedy. We will be conducting an internal investigation of the matter. Justin.tv in no way condones comments of the nature you have described. If we find that someone has breached our acceptable comment policies, we will deal with it as harshly as allowed to by law.


It's entirely possible, and should be second nature for any CEO, to draft a statement that's both legally prudent AND shows a modicum of empathy. What they shouldn't do is try to throw their own role into question until the facts are on the table.

Try this:

"Everyone at Justin.tv is deeply shocked and saddened by this news. In the upcoming days, we will conduct a thorough investigation of the events surrounding this incident, and will cooperate fully with local police and federal authorities. Once all the facts have been gathered and analyzed, we will release an additional statement. Until that time, we will refrain from further comment, except to say that our thoughts and prayers are with Mr. Biggs's family and friends as they come to grips with a sudden, tragic loss."


I respect what you're trying to say here, but seriously: stop.

It's easy to be a critical asshat on the internet. How much different is your criticism from that of the forum members involved in this incident?

You can tell these guys all about how to respond when it's your business on the stump. Maybe they can't show empathy because it weakens their legal position. I just don't know.

It's natural to mourn, to be empathetic, and for some people it's natural to be assholes. Let's try to keep cool heads in this community and show support for both the family of Abraham K. Biggs, and for the startup involved. They will learn something from this. I hope we all do.


Its not what you say that matters but the action - what you feel and do.

Yes Justin.tv can say for PR "oh I am deeply shocked and we here would all mourn for 30 days." Lets restrict animated false talks.

edit: I know I am going to be downmodded for being bluntly realistic.


I'd wager that everyone at Justin.tv is shocked and saddened. Too bad nobody knows that for sure.


Then again, no one knows if you are shocked and saddened either since all you've posted are complaints about the CEO's response. That's the line of reasoning you are taking, isn't it?

I know the response isn't good PR, but I'm not sure why I or anyone else is supposed to be worried about what the CEO of Justin.tv thinks about the suicide. Maybe they could make it clear to their users to treat such incidents as serious where possible, but how are some kind words supposed to help the situation?


I think is that the CEO was asked for a response, and all he said was something about this being against terms of service. Nothing emotional whatsoever, which is understandable but a bit lame.

And I think we care because Justin.tv is a YCombinator site, and, more importantly, they all post here and they're good guys. (Bill in particular usually has got stuff worth saying. Maybe others and I don't realize it's them.) So people respond like they do because they know that J.tv people will read it.


Thats better. Act is supreme than statements given to press. All this press and legal are forcing everyone to lead a false life. one of their true self and one for the press and legal.


At which point his lawyer would phone up and tell him what a pillock he was, how open it left them and to please use the damn boilerplates that the qualified lawyers wrote :)


It seems like it was mostly the bodybuilding.com (currently down) forum members that were doing the egging. Justin.tv happened to be caught in the middle.

Google cache: http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:iCJ0Fwq-DVwJ:forum.body...


Also: http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:r5eE7w8sqEQJ:forum.body...

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Y6Es8cNik58J:forum.body...

Be interesting to see if some of those guys get tried with second degree manslaughter or something similar.


I don't really see anyone "egging him on". All I see is a bunch of people not taking him seriously.


This comment is so depressing that I am going to kill myself. I hope you get indicted for second degree manslaughter when I die.

(My point phrased less cynically: telling a commenter on a forum to kill himself should not be the same crime as flattening someone with your car.)


Watching someone dying and not doing anything about it is different than telling someone to kill himself on a forum. Also, read my comment again. I never said I hoped they get charged with something, I said it would be interesting to see if they do. There will be a public outcry and no doubt some prosecutor is going to try to pin some charges against them.


Watching someone dying and not doing anything about it is different than telling someone to kill himself on a forum.

Yeah, I hate it when consenting adults make their own decisions. I mean, the nerve!! Don't they know that dying is Really Bad?

There will be a public outcry and no doubt some prosecutor is going to try to pin some charges against them.

You do know that this is not the first time that someone has killed themselves on a webcam, right? No charges have ever stuck before, so I don't see why they would this time.


Well, it isn't, but it is rather distasteful.


It would seem to me that they should have planned on this kind of scenario. It doesn't have to be specific they just have to be able to plug some words into a statement about something tragic, but uncomfirmed on their network.

It's basic risk management.

That said, people are always going to pick holes in whatever words you use. They are either not enough or too insincere.


"people are always going to pick holes in whatever words you use"

That's precisely why you should have the boilerplate prepared by PR and law professionals.


I see the furries are voting in force today. :-) Is this really Hacker News material?


Finally. I got an invitation at work for this the other day, I signed on, and was like, really? This won the Palme D'Arrington? It's sloppy, has SMS messages that sound like Yoda, and doesn't seem to interoperate with anything.

Does anyone else feel that TechCrunch's credibility has taken massive hits in 2008?



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