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so it's a fuse that costs $5k or $10k. is it made from 5oz-10oz of solid platinum? what am i missing here [1]?

[1] http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3D...




What you are missing is that it's a 1500A fuse.

Source: http://jalopnik.com/the-tesla-model-s-just-got-upgraded-to-l...

> While working on our goal of making the power train last a million miles, we came up with the idea for an advanced smart fuse for the battery. Instead of a standard fuse that just melts past a certain amperage, which means you aren’t exactly sure when it will or won’t melt or if it will arc when it does, we developed a fuse with its own electronics and a tiny lithium-ion battery. It constantly monitors current at the millisecond level and is pyro-actuated to cut power with extreme precision and certainty.

That was combined with upgrading the main pack contractor to use inconel (a high temperature space-grade superalloy) instead of steel, so that it remains springy under the heat of heavy current.

The net result is that we can safely increase max amp throughout from 1300 to 1500 Amps. If you don’t know much about Amps, trust me this is a silly big number of Amps to be going through something the size of your little fingernail.

What this results in is a 10% improvement in the 0 to 60 mph time to 2.8 secs and a quarter mile time of 10.9 secs. Time to 155 mph is improved even more, resulting in a 20% reduction.


At high levels of current it takes pretty drastic measures to break the circuit. Even if the conductor melts away you can still have arcing, turning the air into plasma and a replacement conductor.

Kind of nuts that they had to account for that in a car.


Kind of awesome, I think you mean.


Awesomely nuts.


Oh jeez. Never mind my sibling comment - this sucker seems hellaciously sophisticated, far more so than I was imagining. An active fuse that carries 1.5kA that's the size of a finger? I've seen fuses wider than my wrist blam for less.


What voltage are they running at? That's a crazy high current, I wonder if they could run at a higher voltage.

[edit] Just dividing the power-train rating of 515kW by 1300A yields a bit under 400V which sounds reasonable.


Wow is that 1500A with DC current? Wouldn't there be a big magnetic field generated when so much power is pulled through the wires/bus bars from the battery? Would be kinda funny to do an insane mode launch and your pocket change flys out of your pocket and sticks to the floor.


What a fantastic read! I wonder if they get any tech or materials from SpaceX?


Well, SpaceX uses inconel. They also must have a quite good understanding of pyrotechnics, as they need to use that in a lot of places, eg. stage separation.

So I'd say yes, at least on the tech transfer part.


Inconel has been around for decades. It's just a nickel alloy. Nothing terribly special about that.


SpaceX seem to try pretty hard to avoid pyros -- one reason I've heard is that pyro devices can't be tested!

i believe they do still use a few, but pretty sure not for stage separation.


I don't think so. At least, it hasn't been publicly reported as far as I know. So although I'm not saying it's impossible, I'd be very interested to know the source for your statement?


Hopefully once they iron out the kinks in space travel they can release it to the Tesla with a software upgrade, or maybe an even better fuse!


Without the performance characteristics for the fuse, I wouldn't imagine it would be cheap. Specialized electronic components are usually very expensive, especially if they're never mass produced and engineered to a specific task (component ICs for devices in space face the same issue). That engineering is pretty damn expensive, the tooling to make the small run of components is expensive, and quality control is expensive. Make a few hundred million and those costs vanish compared to the input materials, compared to a few thousand components where the overhead dominates.


I'm sure there are other hardware upgrades involved to achieve that than just a single fuse.


They probably also factor in that cars driven with "Ludicrous" acceleration may have statistical higher warranty claims.


Not sure about the P85D specifically but the regular 85 KWh battery pack fuse[0] is $272 (min order 3) from Digi-Key [1]

[0] http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/37023-P85D-Pow...

[1] http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/170M4416/170M4416-N...



Supply and demand... For every 1000 Tesla owner willing to pay $5, more than one of them is willing to pay $5k.


They determined that people will pay 5-10k for the additional speed. Nothing more than that probably.


These people are funding more R&D from Tesla so they can develop their next gen affordable electric car.


Market segmentation. How do you get people to pay you another 10k? With a widget that is useless but has huge bragging value. People who don't care about 10k will spend it on this, and those who do care will have no different lives.




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