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I think it might also be because "Swinging" is a word from a previous era and some/many of the young LGBTQ+ people are against learning from their elders.

Swinging is a very clear example of ENM.




> young LGBTQ+ people are against learning from their elders

No, there's a missing generation. As (previously) one of those, my generation is now the "elders", and we had to learn in a strange, weirdly sheltered way. Our elders were dead or hiding. The topics were taboo, the representation garbage, and the content online? Often blocked in the place we had internet access.

I do a lot of teaching to my younger queer friends. Sometimes I have to do a lot of research on a topic before I can give an answer.

In addition, Swingers weren't talked about in any part of my growing up. It wasn't until as an adult I looked at my partner and said "Oh, they're having a key party" at an exhibit of a model 50s-era home in the midwest.


Sorry, yes, I wasn't intending to give the impression that I was ignoring the many, many that died in the 80s during the AIDS epidemic. I was intending to refer to Millenials as the elders and Gen Alpha as the "young LGBTQ+".

At least what I see on TikTok has reflected a lot of the elder (Millenial) LGBTQ+ people becoming periodically frustrated with the younglings for not listening to them as they talk about exactly the frustrations / issues the new ones are going through or aren't having to go through.

Weirdly, swingers *were* talked about in my family when I was young.


Google seems to think monogamish is the new word for it, but that is a really confusing word (I thought it meant you can cuddle puddle with your friends).


ENM?


Ethical non-monogamy


> some/many of the young LGBTQ+ people are against learning from their elders.

Well almost a complete generational cohort of their elders is simply missing. They died of aids in the 80s and 90s.


No, they didn't. At least look at the data before making such a bigoted statement.


Yes, we did lose a generational cohort.

There is a reason that the quilt is so large[1].

[1] https://www.npr.org/2012/06/27/155868611/pieces-of-aids-quil...


100k out of 200 million (US)? Out of 5 billion (worldwide)?

The flu makes us lose five "generational cohorts" every year, then.


Intersectionality.

100k out of *how many out homosexual individuals during that era in the area being studied*?

And it's not just raw numbers, either. It's how many lives / families were impacted in this unique way.

To add, it's also 100k that were almost entirely in a single demographic that was explicitly and implicitly being harmed by those in power during that era.


I want to add more. The whole “30 is gay death” expression, I bet, especially since it’s not really a thing anymore, was greatly influenced by there being very few gay people over 30. Because the rest were dead.


>Intersectionality.

Nah, just elementary school Math.

It was around 1%, a considerable morbidity but still very far from losing "a complete generational cohort".


Hey btw I absolutely did mean "a generational cohort of lgbtq people" not the broader total population. Which would make no sense, so I assumed no one would interpret my meaning that way. Thanks for calling me a bigot and then starting a fight with these other people about it though.


A multiplication and a division is starting a fight nowadays?

>a generational cohort of lgbtq people

That's where the 1% figure comes from. If you look at the whole population it is more like 0.0001%.

Sorry if Math hurt your feelings.

Btw, bigot means a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief or an opinion, which seems relevant.




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