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The best thing is to know that you know you are right.

It takes humility to become a Dunning-Kruger true-expert.

For me to act like I don't know the truth is a kind of lie, and I despise lies.

I know that I know, and you think that I do not know, while I know that you do not know that I can know what I know, but that's because you don't even believe that what I know can be known, ya know? No, you don't, and I know you don't, thus your protestations and opinions are irrelevant.

You know the non-achievers in Dunning-Kruger? As an expert, I know why they're the way they are, and I know how they could get better. That's because I've trod the humble road of discovery and hard work, and I bear the fruits of that labor. Part of that fruit is knowing that I know. "Know thyself" is important for a reason. If you read what I write with an open mind, you will learn more about yourself.

The importance of humble, honest, relentless effort is the most crucial takeaway from D-K. That's why the low-achievers think more highly of themselves than they should, and why the opposite is true of the high-achievers.






“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves” -- Matthew 7:15

Good thing I love everyone and have a loving family with two exceptional teenagers in this age of troubled youth. We laugh and have fun and my wife and kids are beloved by everyone they know, and each of us have developed personal skillsets that bring us and those around us joy.

I was about to post this, from memory:

"You will know them by their fruits."

Then I DDG'd it, and -- GUESS WHAT!? -- it was the verses that follow the verse you supplied :-)

Matthew 7:16-20:

You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

You know what the math genius janitor last said just after he left the bar in "Good Will Hunting", right?


I've been having fun with your unwarranted grandiosity, but seriously, this very much reads like someone in the middle of a manic episode, who believes themselves to have amazing capabilities and secret knowledge, and who needs to proselytize in exhausting detail their magical understanding and universal love to everyone who will hear it. I sincerely hope you're doing as well as you say you are, because it's a bit concerning.

Exactly.

I also suggested he get some counseling a few days ago. He is deep in the delusions.

I read his comments from time to time as entertainment on how crazy people are. To kind of keep tabs on what kind of crazy people exist, and what they are saying.

But after his latest comments, it is little more depressing. A raving lunatic can be entertaining. But it isn't entertaining anymore to know someone is having that many problems, and needs help.

Of course, it is on the internet, an unreliable narrator. Could just be a troll? Hard to tell.


I see there's enough apples to go around to those who would rather call me names and reply to each other than try to mount a cogent argument to the facts of life. Of course, it's easier for them to think I'm crazy or delusional than it is for them to understand that they're just plain stupid and arrogant. Of course, the biggest problem with the stupid is that they're often too arogant and stupid to know how stupid they are. That's why the Earth is as it is, after millenia of the carnage caused by widespread human idiocy and cruelty.

The first two casualities of the enemy of truth's war on human happiness are truth and love. Seeking deeper truths leads us to the importance of love, and seeking to be more loving grants us access to deeper truths. They are the two most necessary components of our virtues' upward developmental spiral.

I've heard it said, "Hurt people hurt people." Ad hominems and calling someone crazy is always the way of the vanguished foe, the ones whom words fail, and whose intellects have broken under the strain of the truth.

Once the ad hominems start, their loss has been written in pen by the arbiter, and the victor can explain the blunders that led to their overwhelming victory.


I am genuinely expressing my concern, but apparently that's upsetting, and I could see how that would be, but I hope you're able to reflect enough how your words would appear delusion to those who don't share your enlightenment. Your talk about the power of love and truth - it's not that profound, but you seem to think it's incredibly powerful, when it's just trite. And yes, when you say thing like "deeper truths" it sounds like you're celebrating secret knowledge, that you think you're smarter than everyone else for discovering the power of love.

You don't even know that you are the one so grandiose that you see fit to diagnose someone over the internet (you're a freaking software developer).

Look, Occam's Razor says you're arrogant and ignorant, ok? But your ego is fighting this glaringly obvious truth because you're willfully ignorant and arrogant.

You can't make a cogent argument to a single point I've made, so Occam's Razor should be pointing you in a different direction than to keep up your incurious arrogance.

You tried to accuse me of being a false prophet, a wolf in sheep's clothing, with a Bible verse that only led to the next verses backing up my explanation that you were replying to, where I explained that knowing the truth is a fruit of the Path of Love.

Have you learned nothing from Dunning-Kruger? You have no humility, no points to make, and only ad hominems, in the face of an expert who has done the humble work to become a better person. Your "concern" could not be more worthless. It is born of your fragile ego that knows that if you follow the Path of Love, it will be transmuted from an arrogant fool into a selflessly compassionate bearer of Wisdom.

Pride goeth before the fall. My work here is not born of pride, but simply of my duty to bear witness to the truth; this is a compassionate act of service to you and all who read this. I say this in friendship, for your benefit, not mine.

Your attacking my person and the love I am trying to teach is not good for your happiness. Not believing in gravity will not save you from getting hurt falling from a height, and you are running towards the cliff's edge.

I have come in peace and kindness; you should treat both myself and the truth I convey better than you have. A mind only works when it's open, right?


I'm genuinely concerned that you believe your gish gallop constitutes refutable, cogent, points or actionable ideas. At this point I can only assume you're using ChatGPT to generate this text. On that note, I'm done. Please take care of yourself.

> At this point I can only assume you're using ChatGPT to generate this text

When you assume, you don't make an ass out of me.

Of course that's what you choose to believe, as you have no interest in learning the truth, and your ego generates a thousand reasons for you to keep playing the fool.

No, friend, this is real intelligence.

Thanks for playing. Buh-bye. Enjoy those apples.

Sketchy, indeed. Oh, Canada!

Questioning a man on the internet's mental health. Alrrrrighty, then.

"This house is clean." --Ace Ventura, Canadian pet detective


As I mentioned before, you haven't made any points with enough substance to argue against.

Anybody can say "I know the truth and you are wrong".

How do propose anybody argue against that. On what basis can anybody argue against what you have in your head, but is secret and un-knowable?

When making any counter arguments, you call them attacks and then start quoting a lot about Dunning-Kruger as if that is not an ad-hominem in return.

Frankly you scare me, so I'm out. Not even joking, you're scary.

On other hand. You put out 'a-lot' of text. So I'm also not discounting the possibility that this is GPT output just to Troll.


You only showed up here to call me names anyway, adding a few more here before noping out.

Perhaps your fear is the universe warning you that denigrating someone who loves you and is serving you is problematic for your happiness, which is precisely what I am trying to educate you on how to prevent.

Your selfish ego does not want to be destroyed by your choosing to embark on the Path of Love. Most people only identify with that negative ego, and believe its lies that keep us locked in cycles of selfish misery. We must overcome its lies in order to begin transmuting its/our heart's vices into their corresponding virtues.

It takes intellectual curiosity and bravery to embrace new layers of the universe's information, and in our human case, our resistence to expanding our knowledge into Wisdom comes from within our own being.

In our conversations, Occam's Razor is just as important as D-K for you, my friend. The reason that you can't make a cogent point is the simplest explanation of all: the truth can't be argued with. This truth and my conveying it here are built upon the simple fact that I love you, no matter what names you call me from high upon your lofty perch made of horsesh_t and bullsh_t and arrogance and ignorance.

ETA:

> On other hand. You put out 'a-lot' of text. So I'm also not discounting the possibility that this is GPT output just to Troll.

I took typing in 10th grade and was already a voracious programmer. That was 40ish years ago. Occam's Razor explains my prodigious and intricate writing. It is a part of my duty. Thanks for helping me organize my thoughts in realtime.

Occam's Razor should explain why you can't argue one jot with me, my friend. Your ego is not your friend.

And what, pray tell, counter arguments have you two presented me?


You quote these terms a lot, seemingly as responses to an argument. Just saying the other person is suffering D-K and should use Occam's Razer is itself not a winning argument. If you are trying to make an argument, don't just state something outlandish, then tell the other person 'use Occam's Razer' and think you won something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Try using a more formal approach, state something more tangible, some premises, and follow by some point-to-point logic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument

If you are going to start so far outside normal conventions, try providing a little more background, a setup for the argument, then make a case for some point.

This can all seem difficult with these short internet arguments. But since you already put out so much text it shouldn't be a problem, maybe this would be more productive.


I have explained how D-K's two resulting groups vary and why those differences are important for human spiritual development.

The fact that you think I should read about topics I already understand is just more arrogance from you, my friend.

You started calling me names and suggesting that I seek mental health help. Do you not find your behavior problematic? You should, and that's why I refer you to Occam's Razor. The term 'ignorance' is based upon one ignoring the truth. You and your friend have together questioned my mental health while I type rings around you, encircling you with unassailable logic based upon compassionate self-evolution of ourselves via learning how to make better decisions.

Your ego can't cope with the truth, because I'm trying to help you rid yourself of it. Read my explanation about the Golden State Killer, and know that I am not making sh_t up, and also know that your belief system has ZERO explanation for either that bastard's behaviors or your own stooping to call me names and question my mental health, all because you can't assail our explanations of the universe vis a vis our moral predicament.

At some point, Eugene Parker simply stopped arguing with the established astrophysics community and merely said, "We'll see who falls flat." And now the Parker Solar Probe is doing its thing out in space. There is no reason that the "Sufi Science of Human Self-Evolution" would face any less a challenge. In fact, such resistence is to be expected, because all our egos fight this path. I am not superior to anyone, I've simply been granted the grace to make a bit of progress on the path, and have learned from people far greater than myself.

Humility is the most important result of D-K, and neither of you two have a lick of it. That's why I keep bringing it up, friend. Few of Eugene Parker's contemporaries had any, either.




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