Are there recent model vehicles without computer controlled throttles?
I know ABS implies computer modulated braking, but I don't think it implies the computer can brake without user input or override user input and not brake. Otoh, automatic emergency braking is standard on some vehicles and optional on many.
Computer controlled steering is currently rare, but is part of lane keeping assistance.
ESC (basically same actuator hardware as ABS) can definitely brake without user input and it's mandatory in all cars sold after 2012. Steering assist is mostly torque limited by design, you should be able to easily overpower it.
>Steering assist is mostly torque limited by design, you should be able to easily overpower it.
Glad you said "mostly". The Cybertruck is an exception, with full drive-by-wire. There may be others. If the 'truck is a hit (and it is) expect its ideas to spread.
Yeah, my info was based on George Hotz interviews on Openpilot. He said they are safe because even if the software wants to steer the car off the road, the lane keep assist actuator won’t be able to steer that hard and will disengage. Haven’t personally tested that myself :)
I’m saying the physical actuators that turn the steering wheel when LKA is on are torque limited on purpose, so they won’t be able to make a sharp turn or overpower a human, even if they won’t disengage when a human tries to override it (e.g. due to a bug or sensor failure).
I know ABS implies computer modulated braking, but I don't think it implies the computer can brake without user input or override user input and not brake. Otoh, automatic emergency braking is standard on some vehicles and optional on many.
Computer controlled steering is currently rare, but is part of lane keeping assistance.