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Couple things to note here:

* As the numbers here show, the high end of Manhattan rentals is very, very high. ~10%[0] of listed rentals at the moment are >$10k/mo. >$100k rentals are not unheard of. Looks like the highest market rental right now is asking $175k/mo.

* ~50%[1] of Manhattan's rental stock is rent stabilized, meaning the rent adjustment rates are set by the city. These units rent for considerably less than market-rate rentals.

* For a variety of reasons, rent-stabilized units often stay in the informal housing market (i.e. not on real estate listing services), which AFAIK these reports do not measure.

* There are a variety of cultural factors here that are a bit unusual for the US, including:

- It's fairly normal here for people with 'good' jobs to have roommates into their 30s+

- The informal housing market here is massive (e.g. I've lived here for 10+ years and have very few friends who've ended up in market-rate rentals)

- Manhattan builds very little new housing (e.g. zero units approved last month)

- It's Manhattan, so there's a LOT of money floating around here.

So yes, Manhattan is getting more expensive, but these market-rate rental reports are not the entire story.

[0] From Streeteasy, a local real estate listing service

[1] https://www.nyc.gov/assets/hpd/downloads/pdfs/services/rent-...




> >$100k rentals are not unheard of

these are not 'normal' rentals and imo should be excluded from stats, since they don't apply to typical families living year-to-year in nyc

a majority of those are short-term entire floor/home rentals, often rented out for less than a month at a time, to be used for production companies putting up A-listers for the length of a project, or even used as the set itself: sometimes the listing will say 'used for the filming of y reality show in 20xx!' like a selling point


> these are not 'normal' rentals and imo should be excluded from stats

At least, they should use the median rather than the average.


> typical families

I think this depends on the indented audience in the metric or report.

If we are just talking numbers, include all of them.

If we want to focus on typical families, we need to define what that means.


> It's fairly normal here for people with 'good' jobs to have roommates into their 30s+

I'm happy that folks are willing to do this, but sheesh I am glad I left NY long ago.




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