On: How friendships change in adulthood

[User23]

Stratification of American society is largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children. There is considerable hysteresis so it’s not as simple as lining up cost of living and crime stats, but a “nice neighborhood with good schools” will be considerably more expensive all else being equal.

[pessimizer → User23]

> largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children.

If I have to guess, what I think you're actually talking about is

1) after middle-class suburban kids leave home to go to college, then

2) graduate and move into gentrifying areas to take internships/jobs in big cities, then

3) get married during that period in their 20s while their income is rising into six figures, and

4) they purchase their starter house in the latest gentrifying neighborhood, then

5) get pregnant and get a dog at the same time, so

6) muggings and property crimes in their new neighborhood turn them extremely reactionary, then

7) they move to a massive palace in the suburbs either shortly before or shortly after the kid pops out.

i.e. the universal American experience.

[lotsofpulp → pessimizer]

>i.e. the universal American experience.

How is this consistent with #3? $100k incomes are 80th percentile.

https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/

[kleinsch → lotsofpulp]

Median household is $70K, $100K is 62nd percentile. So if both partners are working, which is common before children, it’s fairly likely.

[lotsofpulp → kleinsch]

Eh, I would be willing to bet the steps outlined in pessimizer’s post are experienced by 20% of young adults (let’s say 25 to 35 years old).

All others are renting or not moving into a “massive place” after their initial purchase, which itself was probably barely affordable.

[PaulDavisThe1st → User23]

> Stratification of American society is largely due to people fleeing violent and property crime, especially once they have children.

Claim made without evidence, and there is plenty of evidence that there are other larger factors at play.