On: Photoshop for Text

[smoldesu]

Yeah, but nobody is buying Photoshop for the inpainting features. Photoshop's bread-and-butter is raster graphics tools, and almost all of them function deterministically.

[fragmede → smoldesu]

Content aware fill's been in Photoshop since the CS5 days, so at least back to 2019.

[ihateolives → fragmede]

Yes, and it sucked for anything more complex than filling sky with more clouds or foliage with more leaves.

[warkdarrior → smoldesu]

Not sure what you mean by "deterministically", but most models are deterministic during inference: given the same input or prompt, they'll generate the same output.

[pfortuny → warkdarrior]

Are they? I thought there was always a kind of “random parameter” or random step midway?

Hope this question is not too dumb!

[ihateolives → pfortuny]

Usually not, perhaps noise filters, but mostly not. There was amusing case of reversing twirl filter a while ago: https://boingboing.net/2007/10/08/untwirling-photo-of.html

[msk-lywenn → ihateolives]

Surely that twirl effect isn't made using AI but just a geometric function, right?

[pfortuny → ihateolives]

Thanks a lot. I was mistaken.

[cfn → pfortuny]

It depends on the algorithm, but many models can be re-generated if you start with the same seed.

[msk-lywenn → cfn]

Is it common and/or expected to have control over the seed though?

[comboy → msk-lywenn]

Yes, if you are fine tuning some other parameters you need to keep the seed the same to be able to have any idea what you're doing.

[pfortuny → cfn]

Thank you! I was mistaken then.