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Vices are becoming the default positions in secular societies unfortunately.



Do you happen to have actually any data to truly make this point in a valid way?

A few of the most non-secular societies like Poland and Russia seem to belie this assertion.

Do not overestimate the power of religion here. Monks used to be purveyors of wine and spirits.

I'd wager that respectively fewer people drink now than before, mostly because other entertainment than a drinking place is now available.




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