On: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers dee...

[simion314]

But when is about TikTok I see most americans have completely different values, no sorry americans are consistent, only US citizens deserve rights, the rest can be spied on, tortured,killed etc. Give EU citizens same privacy rights and there so no need to start an economic war because some NSA fat and lazy agent does not want to prepare a file to request a warrant. If you are at it, maybe is tiem to let US citizens that killed people(like in car crashes abroad) to get their fair trial and punishment too.

We have rights too, you are not more special and deserve more basic human rights because citizenship.

[dang → simion314]

Please don't take HN threads into flamewar, let alone nationalistic flamewar. It's exactly what we don't want here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've been breaking the site guidelines in other threads too. We ban accounts that do that, so please stop.

[simion314 → dang]

>Please don't take HN threads into flamewar, let alone nationalistic flamewar.

Sorry but how can I respond when all the dudes above are accusing Germany and EU that are doing this because protectionism?

Probably I should ignore them? Or submit a TicTok article immediately and watch the hypocrisy?

[dang → simion314]

Believe me, I understand how strong the provocation can be, and how hard to resist, but yes, you should probably ignore them. Fighting just feeds it.

Personally I just try to keep reminding myself that humans en masse, and therefore the internet, are basically wrong about everything.

[blocked_again → simion314]

You do know that nobody in US is forcing you to use this site or any other US companies for that matter. You are doing it with your own free fill.

Also, remember the time when Germany decided to go after their own people? How does laws like this help when it comes to situations like that?

[xdennis → blocked_again]

I'm not sure what you're saying. Do you mean that each individual is supposed to know where every site is based instead of having country-wide/EU-wide protections in place?

[blocked_again → xdennis]

Yeah. Individuals are perfectly capable of making that decision. I don't want my government telling me where I should keep my data.

[tukantje → blocked_again]

You are either ridiculous or malicious.

Individuals are not perfectly capable of this decision, especially since they are multiple steps removed from said decision (e.g. saas I use is using another service hosted on amazon); and in a lot of the cases (e.g. using a software for their job) not even in a place where they can make the decision.

Government does not tell you where you should keep your data. They tell, where you can't.

This is because it is not a compliant place to store data at. Same reason we don't want you to store data in china, for example.

[simion314 → blocked_again]

So you say nobody should say visit US because human rights apply only for citizens? Do I also don't have the right to point that this is bad? When did non US people lost this right to complain?

Is there a reason why making it illegal for NSA and CIA to spy on EU citizens with warrants is affecting you personally? Do you work for CIA and you don't want to fill paperwork?

This is such an obvious solution, remove the stupid law and partner with EU in protecting privacy, then you can work together against China.

[dang → bettysdiagnose]

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, let alone nationalistic flamewar. It's exactly what we don't want here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: actually, given the pattern of this account not just in this thread but in other threads as well, we've banned it. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32393807.

[blocked_again → bettysdiagnose]

All I am saying is Individuals are perfectly capable of making that decision. Whether they should store their data in Germany, California or some random Caribbean island.

[simsla → blocked_again]

And yet you claim Germany and Europe have "gone wrong" when they make exactly such a determination.

Seems like double standards. What's the difference?

[simion314 → blocked_again]

And did the Germans put some buy in prison for his personal data, or was about companies sending to US other people private data?