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The amount of carbon a gas stove emits, like plastic straws, plastic bags, and all manner of bans the eco-activists are forcing on society, is so infinitesimally small compared to the airplanes the same activists and politicians use to jet around the country. It's completely laughable and totally absurd. I'm so utterly tired of virtue signaling in all aspects of society. We put insane amounts of effort into things that do nothing, then ignore all of the huge issues because those issues are hard and don't fit into a neat tweet.



Okay, now how much carbon does the entire gas infrastructure used to pipe that gas around emit, and the gas used to heat homes? Because as long as people are going to specifically demand gas stoves, all that infrastructure still has to exist, and gas heating is going to be attractive because the gas hookup is already there.

The fossil fuel industry specifically uses gas stoves as a gateway to push people towards using more gas (see the old “cooking with gas” campaign for example). This is about countering that messaging.

(And besides, we know more about the health impacts of gas stove use now too; there are more direct health reasons you’d want to avoid them in addition to the climate impacts.)

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/07/1015460605/gas-stove-emission...


We already have the infrastructure and it works great. How about solve the planes and container ships then we can work our way down to the things that barely matter?


> The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency estimates that in 2019, methane emissions from natural gas and petroleum systems and from abandoned oil and natural gas wells were the source of about 29% of total U.S. methane emissions and about 3% of total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.

Source: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/natural-gas/natural-gas-...

Sounds like it matters to me, especially considering methane is a particularly potent greenhouse gas.


> things that barely matter

Can you support the claim that they barely matter? From what I've seen, consumers produce a significant amount of GHG.

Why not solve both now? There's no reason to wait for someone else to do something, and many solutions take time to develop and implement.


> infinitesimally ... completely ... totally ... utterly ... insane

Words like that are an attempt to add impact, but they don't change the underlying facts and argument. Can you back up these claims?

Paraphrasing Mark Twain, 'replace all your adverbs and adjectives with 'damn', and then edit for a family-friendly newspaper.'


> Eco-Cycle is unable to provide any data to back up this number, telling Reason that it was relying on the research of one Milo Cress. Cress—whose Be Straw Free Campaign is hosted on Eco-Cycle's website—tells Reason that he arrived at the 500 million straws a day figure from phone surveys he conducted of straw manufacturers in 2011, when he was just 9 years old.

> Cress, who is now 16, says that the National Restaurant Association has endorsed his estimates in private correspondence. This may well be true, but the only references to the 500 million figure on the association's website again point back to the work done by Cress.

https://reason.com/2018/01/25/california-bill-would-criminal...


The publication Reason isn't usually considered the most credible source. I'll just leave the claims as 'unfounded', which is fine.


Ah yes, when the news disagrees with your worldview attack the source. The article is well-researched with plenty of links, but your response is expected.


You can say that, but Reason is still not generally seen as credible. If we ignore credibility, we can say and on the Interet we can find support for anything.


Who says it’s not credible? Why is it any less credible than NYT or WSJ, which each has its own ideological slant?


Good question. What makes sources credible?




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