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In the USA, one of the world's most populous spanish-speaking countries, Spanish communication is often conducted using -x ending, even by the president.



The US is actually #2, behind Mexico (closely tied with Spain).

> Spanish communication is often conducted using -x ending

That’s true if by “Spanish communication” you mean NPR reporters sprinkling a couple of “Latinx”s into their English-language articles.

> even by the president

This does not make the case you might be hoping it makes.


I wrote the following reply to the person adjacent to your comment, and I will paste it hear as I feel your comment had the same spirit:

Some languages have unfortunate misogynistic and transphobic/monogendered built-ins. This is problematic for a large minority of the LGBTQ+ population and many Native/Indigenous/First nations with different linguistic cultures. The USA is one of, if not the, most diverse country in the world with people from all over. It is to me beautiful that the country can embrace both the latinx/hispanic population and at the same time say to these marginalized groups "we hear you, we listen to you, and we understand you."

To me the fact that the WH and President Biden use these important ungenderizations is a very important step, just like the federal desegregation of schools. It demonstrates how far we have come in just two generations. I have though met many latinx people who prefer latin@ instead, while others say that it reduces the language for non-binary folks.


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I don't know if your first paragraph is sarcastic or not, but I do not think that you consider Indians or Africans "inferior" in truth, and therefore I am going to reply to your comment as if it was ironic or exaggerated for dramatic purpose.

Just like the USA has been a front runner for racial equality and LBGTQ+ rights throughout the world, some people use the argument that "homosexuality is not allowed in Saudi Arabia, but that is THEIR culture" a good one. It is a universal human right!

Unfortunately, there are many places (which correlate with Spanish speaking or non-English) where non-binary and female presenting people are marginalized and do not dare speak up, while the Hispanic population of the USA does - the young generation at least. 10 years ago people used "gay" or "f*g" as an insult, but now-a-days they surely do not!

We have quickly changed as a society, and I hope that while today some people use the same arguments for the gendered language, I think in 10 years time the young generations in many Spanish speaking countries will help their friends to ungenderify - REALLY means to remove the patriarchic heritage of the lingo - Spanish and all other non-indigenous languages.

What would you propose other than latinx or latin@?


The USA is not the epicenter of the Spanish language. The world does not revolve around the USA.


Some languages have unfortunate misogynistic and transphobic/monogendered built-ins. This is problematic for a large minority of the LGBTQ+ population and many Native/Indigenous/First nations with different linguistic cultures. The USA is one of, if not the, most diverse country in the world with people from all over.

It is to me beautiful that the country can embrace both the latinx/hispanic population and at the same time say to these marginalized groups "we hear you, we listen to you, and we understand you."

To me the fact that the WH and President Biden use these important ungenderizations is a very important step, just like the federal desegregation of schools. It demonstrates how far we have come in just two generations. I have though met many latinx people who prefer latin@ instead, while others say that it reduces the language for non-binary folks.


I pray that someday everybody can see how horribly arrogant and culturally imperialist it is for English-speakers to condemn other languages as "problematic" and demand they fundamentally change based on their limited outsider understanding. It's one of those few things which screams woke white supremacy.


> woke white supremacy.

given that may of that languages are used by white people, I would go with "woke imperialistic twitter supremacy" as description.


I am just saying that this exact response is made when people say that LGBTQ+ people deserve equal rights in Saudi Arabia or Russia. That is also cultural, and so is language.

Please educate me I would like to know your opinion.


The difference is that harmful actions are harmful, while you engage in imperialistic twitterism without basic understanding of what you insult.


This is ultimately about telling a diverse group of people that the essence of their human experience is wrong, that their sense of identity and thought patterns are invalid, that they must fundamentally change to conform to the linguistic perception of reality of English speakers - the vast majority of whom neither understand nor respect other languages. See the hypocrisy here?

"Latino" is a gender-neutral word. Gendered languages do not involve all of what "gender" per se means in the English sense. English speakers not understanding or accepting these basic facts is not reflective of the Spanish language; it is reflective of the lack of understanding and acceptance of some English speakers.

And misunderstandings are fine, as is the case with Joe Biden and the Democrats who said something which offends 40% of Latino Americans. But preaching from the pulpit of ignorance is not.


> Some languages have unfortunate misogynistic and transphobic/monogendered built-ins.

This is imperialistic, annoying and misleading. male/female distinction is neither transphobic[1] nor misogynistic[2] nor misandrist.

[1] if you think here about referring to such people with not preferred gender - it is not something enforced by language

[2] why it would be?




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