It’s so interesting that type 2 diabetes is curable with diet.
Type 1 is incurable.
My point is that the psychology of eating is so strong that people would rather take a drug that pass on birth defects to the future than change eating habits.
And I’m a person coming from struggling with just those habits. I think if someone could come up with a treatment to adjust mindsets - it would change healthcare forever and end the need for drugs like Metaform.
Don't forget a lot of food is engineered and marketed to create those habits in the first place. In the end it falls on the person but I can see it being extremely difficult if you're growing up in the wrong environment with a shitty diet and a particular brain.
Type 2 diabetes is not curable with diet. Some (but not all) cases of type 2 can be _prevented_ by proper diet (i.e. avoiding obesity). There is no known diet that cures any type of existing diabetes.
Type-2 diabetes can't be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission with diet for many patients. Virta Health has peer-reviewed research supporting this approach.
> Type-2 diabetes can't be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission
This is such a weird thing to say. If it never comes back you cured it. It's like saying a cold or cancer cannot be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission.
It likely takes the agency away from people and apologizes for the failures of the medical industry.
I think your might not understand the medical terminology. There is a distinct difference between curing an acute infectious disease versus putting a chronic condition into remission. In the majority of cases, cancer can't be cured either; it usually isn't possible to eliminate 100% of malignant cells so if the patient survives long enough then the same cancer will eventually return. While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return.
This is not a failure of the medical industry and no apology is needed.
Not smoking is an intervention against getting "too much" cancer.
> While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return
Low carb diets do not cure diabetes. They treats diabetes. The cure to diabetes (type 2) is not engaging in a lifestyle that causes diabetes, which probably results from causing a zinc deficiency.
I don't understand your point. Most people including me don't engage in daily ongoing interventions to avoid COVID-19. Everyone can expect to get infected with SARS-CoV-2 (probably multiple times) but only a subset of those infections will cause clinically significant COVID-19 symptoms.
Good lifestyle choices can usually prevent type-2 diabetes, but prevention is different from curing an existing condition. That's just medical reality and changing terminology wouldn't impact that.
The zinc deficiency hypothesis is interesting but remains unproven, and can't possibly explain large increases in diabetes. This would be a good area for further research.
> The zinc deficiency hypothesis is interesting but remains unproven
Just be clear, if the hypothesis was proven it would not be a hypothesis anymore, but would be a theory.
> can't possibly explain large increases in diabetes
You cannot say it is not possible when there is so much evidence that it is possible. Tell me how many people you know diagnosed with diabetes have their doctor get their serum and urinary zinc tested?
"Twenty-five percent of these patients had depressed serum zinc concentrations, and all demonstrated hyperzincurla."
100% had high urinary zinc. 100%. This point to a functional deficiency of zinc. 25% had a true deficiency. It might be that the levels of zinc that we have deemed adequate are not adequate for all people.
The time for research is over, it is time to include serum and urinary zinc testing part of the standard of care for physicians.
And who will pay for this research on a low cost option to reverse diabetes when so much money is to be made on new medications>
> Most people including me don't engage in daily ongoing interventions to avoid COVID-19.
Same could be said for cancer and diabetes. You are probably unknowingly intervening against disease. As far as COVID, you will note the obese are more likely to suffer worse outcomes. So for whatever reason someone watches their weight, even vanity, they are helping prevent themselves from COVID.
> prevention is different from curing an existing condition
My mother prevented her self from having the symptoms of having the symptoms of diabetes occur again by changing her diet. How is that different from curing it?
Listen, what is a disease but a collection of symptoms? If I have no symptoms, where is the disease? If I had diabetes, but was never diagnosed, and I treated myself with a diet to make it go away, would a doctor diagnose diabetes when my blood sugar was normal? Funny, it sounds like you are saying doctors causes permanent diseases?
Everything we do around the topic of obesity is about palliative care for people's feelings. Health At Every Size, societal disdain for fat-shaming, etc. Medicating people with statins and insulin management drugs instead of directing them to put down the fucking fork and move occasionally.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans eat themselves to death every year. It is far and away the leading cause of early death, with COVID years additionally highlighting the fact that the VAST majority of deaths under the age of 60 were among the cohort who think donuts and beer constitute an appropriate dinner.
But instead of trying to save these people's lives, we are trying to spare their precious feelings, with the insane irony of the situation being that obesity itself is a STRONG predictor of depression. As if telling people that chugging a case of Pepsi per day is totally fine because you're beautiful as you are is going to save their mental health from the vagaries of the practically inevitable Zoloft drip they'll need to be on to keep the 9mm out of their mouth.
> and apologizes for the failures of the medical industry.
Our culture around obesity is absolutely batshit insane. And yes, medicalizing the symptoms rather than public hangings for food industry executives and widespread re-adoption of fat shaming is a HUGE factor in this.
edit: Sorry to be somewhat animated about this topic, but I am a former fatass who was, like many many Americans, victimized by the food and advertising industries, and eventually came to hate myself enough to strip off the fat and keep it off for well over a decade. And my "negative self talk" has led to being a MUCH happier person. It drives me INSANE that this culture is killing so many of us and wrecking our mental health, but we choose to make it worse.
If I could share with you here the chart of my cholesterol reduction I achieved after drastically changing my omega 6 to omega 3 ratio in my diet... But also the changes to my mood, my Lupus, my kidney function, etc...
And yes, obesity, fat cells are immune cells and they are inflammatory under a poor diet. And this ignorance of the nature of obesity is even more important with SARS2 running around rampant.
I will only say that obesity combined with nutrient deficiency is more important than obesity alone.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d42859-021-00051-w
In a healthy body, adipose tissue plays a positive role, serving as reservoir of energy in times of food scarcity. Fat tissue is also full of immune system cells. And in lean, healthy individuals, it secretes factors that are anti-inflammatory and protective.
If, however, the fat tissue becomes unhealthy, as often happens in people with obesity, it can become dysfunctional and secrete hormones and other chemical signals that promote chronic low-grade inflammation.
The thing is, Type 2 is not even a disease. Its just an imbalance of glucose. So there is really nothing to cure, its just about bringing back your blood glucose levels in balance so that the liver and pancreas can begin to function correctly again.
Of course there could be irreversible damage to those organs and that would be really bad (Several relatives who died of this).
But you are partly right. There can be remission and back to normal with lifestyle changes and Type 2. Substantial studies and clinical evidence shows this.
Type-2 diabetes is characterized more by insulin resistance than by an imbalance of glucose. And glucose isn't really something you "balance" in relation to another substance anyway. In order to be metabolically healthy you have to keep glucose levels in the appropriate range, and that will generally prevent the onset of insulin resistance.
Hmmm. My mother was able to stop taking insulin for her type 2 by changing her diet after doctors told her she would need insulin for the rest of her life. Are you saying it was all in her head?
Please remember that this changes with age, diet and activity levels. If you can fine tune the diet and monitor glucose levels using CGM/AGM's to precise levels over each and every minute throughout the day/week/years., then it is pretty well possible to get a lot more mileage with the diet alone.
Glucose spikes are easy to miss unless monitored this way and could easily be more damaging.
Curable in all cases or just early after a type II diagnosis? I think once you lose it that's it.
The pancreas insulin output is low that's type II diabetes. From my understanding the pancreas, an organ, is damaged and can't regenerate like all organs except the liver (sort of). Like a rotten tooth can't regrow an organ once damaged there's no repair. Pancreatitis is what I'd see as a reversible situation since it's inflammation of the pancreas but not damaged yet.
I both agree and disagree with you.
Asking the average human to resist the efforts of multi-billion dollar companies using powerful psychological science to get people to buy their junk food seems a lot to ask.
Coca-cola successfully got entire nations to change from their traditional drinks to soda pop using propaganda.
I think we need to deal with the American Oligarchs/Megacorps in a very serious manner and very soon.
Type 1 is incurable.
My point is that the psychology of eating is so strong that people would rather take a drug that pass on birth defects to the future than change eating habits.
And I’m a person coming from struggling with just those habits. I think if someone could come up with a treatment to adjust mindsets - it would change healthcare forever and end the need for drugs like Metaform.