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Type-2 diabetes can't be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission with diet for many patients. Virta Health has peer-reviewed research supporting this approach.

https://www.virtahealth.com/resource-type/research




> Type-2 diabetes can't be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission

This is such a weird thing to say. If it never comes back you cured it. It's like saying a cold or cancer cannot be cured, but it can be put into permanent remission.

It likely takes the agency away from people and apologizes for the failures of the medical industry.


I think your might not understand the medical terminology. There is a distinct difference between curing an acute infectious disease versus putting a chronic condition into remission. In the majority of cases, cancer can't be cured either; it usually isn't possible to eliminate 100% of malignant cells so if the patient survives long enough then the same cancer will eventually return. While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return.

This is not a failure of the medical industry and no apology is needed.


What I am saying the medical terminology is the problem.

> if the intervention is removed then the condition will return.

If the interventions preventing covid are removed the condition will return. Do you get that?

On cancer; we all have malignant cells, all the time. everyone right now has cancer cells in their body.

https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/04/18/science-surgery...

Not smoking is an intervention against getting "too much" cancer.

> While a low-carb diet can often put type-2 diabetes into remission, if the intervention is removed then the condition will return

Low carb diets do not cure diabetes. They treats diabetes. The cure to diabetes (type 2) is not engaging in a lifestyle that causes diabetes, which probably results from causing a zinc deficiency.

You can avoid diabetes like you can avoid COVID.


I don't understand your point. Most people including me don't engage in daily ongoing interventions to avoid COVID-19. Everyone can expect to get infected with SARS-CoV-2 (probably multiple times) but only a subset of those infections will cause clinically significant COVID-19 symptoms.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646

Good lifestyle choices can usually prevent type-2 diabetes, but prevention is different from curing an existing condition. That's just medical reality and changing terminology wouldn't impact that.

The zinc deficiency hypothesis is interesting but remains unproven, and can't possibly explain large increases in diabetes. This would be a good area for further research.


> The zinc deficiency hypothesis is interesting but remains unproven

Just be clear, if the hypothesis was proven it would not be a hypothesis anymore, but would be a theory.

> can't possibly explain large increases in diabetes

You cannot say it is not possible when there is so much evidence that it is possible. Tell me how many people you know diagnosed with diabetes have their doctor get their serum and urinary zinc tested?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/000293...

"Twenty-five percent of these patients had depressed serum zinc concentrations, and all demonstrated hyperzincurla."

100% had high urinary zinc. 100%. This point to a functional deficiency of zinc. 25% had a true deficiency. It might be that the levels of zinc that we have deemed adequate are not adequate for all people.

and this is a great short peice: https://www.proquest.com/openview/4aaebeab5e4ac98c2d1c3ced49...

The time for research is over, it is time to include serum and urinary zinc testing part of the standard of care for physicians.

And who will pay for this research on a low cost option to reverse diabetes when so much money is to be made on new medications>

> Most people including me don't engage in daily ongoing interventions to avoid COVID-19.

Same could be said for cancer and diabetes. You are probably unknowingly intervening against disease. As far as COVID, you will note the obese are more likely to suffer worse outcomes. So for whatever reason someone watches their weight, even vanity, they are helping prevent themselves from COVID.

> prevention is different from curing an existing condition

My mother prevented her self from having the symptoms of having the symptoms of diabetes occur again by changing her diet. How is that different from curing it?

Listen, what is a disease but a collection of symptoms? If I have no symptoms, where is the disease? If I had diabetes, but was never diagnosed, and I treated myself with a diet to make it go away, would a doctor diagnose diabetes when my blood sugar was normal? Funny, it sounds like you are saying doctors causes permanent diseases?


> It likely takes the agency away from people

Everything we do around the topic of obesity is about palliative care for people's feelings. Health At Every Size, societal disdain for fat-shaming, etc. Medicating people with statins and insulin management drugs instead of directing them to put down the fucking fork and move occasionally.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans eat themselves to death every year. It is far and away the leading cause of early death, with COVID years additionally highlighting the fact that the VAST majority of deaths under the age of 60 were among the cohort who think donuts and beer constitute an appropriate dinner.

But instead of trying to save these people's lives, we are trying to spare their precious feelings, with the insane irony of the situation being that obesity itself is a STRONG predictor of depression. As if telling people that chugging a case of Pepsi per day is totally fine because you're beautiful as you are is going to save their mental health from the vagaries of the practically inevitable Zoloft drip they'll need to be on to keep the 9mm out of their mouth.

> and apologizes for the failures of the medical industry.

Our culture around obesity is absolutely batshit insane. And yes, medicalizing the symptoms rather than public hangings for food industry executives and widespread re-adoption of fat shaming is a HUGE factor in this.

edit: Sorry to be somewhat animated about this topic, but I am a former fatass who was, like many many Americans, victimized by the food and advertising industries, and eventually came to hate myself enough to strip off the fat and keep it off for well over a decade. And my "negative self talk" has led to being a MUCH happier person. It drives me INSANE that this culture is killing so many of us and wrecking our mental health, but we choose to make it worse.


If I could share with you here the chart of my cholesterol reduction I achieved after drastically changing my omega 6 to omega 3 ratio in my diet... But also the changes to my mood, my Lupus, my kidney function, etc...

And yes, obesity, fat cells are immune cells and they are inflammatory under a poor diet. And this ignorance of the nature of obesity is even more important with SARS2 running around rampant.

I will only say that obesity combined with nutrient deficiency is more important than obesity alone.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d42859-021-00051-w In a healthy body, adipose tissue plays a positive role, serving as reservoir of energy in times of food scarcity. Fat tissue is also full of immune system cells. And in lean, healthy individuals, it secretes factors that are anti-inflammatory and protective.

If, however, the fat tissue becomes unhealthy, as often happens in people with obesity, it can become dysfunctional and secrete hormones and other chemical signals that promote chronic low-grade inflammation.




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