I'm sorry, what's extreme about my view? I didn't say they weren't worthwhile, nor that they weren't open source, nor that they aren't free.
Do you disagree with my evaluation above? If so how?
I'm genuinely curious because I've been unable to mentally reconcile the OSI listing BSD licenses for years now. It scarcely matters one way or the other, it's not like the OSI is the ultimate moral arbiter of all that is good and right in the world. It just seems oddly inconsistent.
I agree with FSF and OSI respective definitions of free software and open source.
I also agree with their interpretation of BSD licenses and recognition as free software and open source respectively.
The OSI (and FSF) aren't the "ultimate moral arbiters of all that is good and right in the world". They do, however, represent me, and you'll find, a majority of people who care about free and open source software.
You're, of course, free to advocate whatever you want. I would suggest directing your efforts at convincing OSI/GNU/FSF to adopt your interpretation, where BSD runs counter to the four freedoms and reclassify BSD licenses as a start.
Should that fail, you can consider starting some sort of alternative such organization. If your views are indeed shared with many, there's a good chance it can gain traction. But only if that's the case.
As this is straying far into offtopic for the associated story, my end will not post further replies on this thread. I kindly request the same from yours.
> I agree with FSF and OSI respective definitions of free software and open source.
> I also agree with their interpretation of BSD licenses and recognition as free software and open source respectively.
These seem to be in conflict here, as pointed out above, and your responses to my honest questions about this are not enlightening, in fact quite the contrary - you seem to be getting annoyed and are accusing me of having some sort of agenda.
> You're, of course, free to advocate whatever you want.
I'm not advocating anything. I'm certainly not advocating reclassification of any licenses. I'm not sure why this conversation is putting your back up so much.
> my end will not post further replies on this thread.
That's probably for the best, it seems to be upsetting you.