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Perhaps to escape suffering, one must also escape joy?



I think it's more avoiding clinging to temporary joy. Have you met a person who seems to live in their glory days, clinging to the last time they were happy? Spending their entire life chasing after those first highs? I find it hard to describe people like this as anything but 'suffering'.

I would also note that the meditative techniques of the Buddha eventually lead to an experience called the 'jhanas', which are pleasurable all on their own:

> Directed thought, singleness of preoccupation, and evaluation act as the causes. When the causes are fully ripe, results will appear — (d) rapture (piti), a compelling sense of fullness and refreshment for body and mind, going straight to the heart, independent of all else; (e) pleasure (sukha), physical ease arising from the body's being still and unperturbed (kaya-passaddhi); mental contentment arising from the mind's being at ease on its own, undistracted, unperturbed, serene, and exultant (citta-passaddhi).

(https://accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/lee/inmind.html#jhana)

There are plenty of joyful feelings in the path the Buddha set forth; spending time in meditation in these altered states of consciousness is part of the path, as I understand it. It's not all as austere as it may seem at first!


Is that desirable? Maybe joy makes the suffering worthwhile. At least for some of us. Maybe even most.




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