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Dude the fact you and him even accept the concept of "the west" is a testament to relentless and constant propaganda. That there is a unified front of "mostly white people" all sharing american values, guns and private prison alike.

Even China loves this idea of the western "box" they can put me, a French, in to associate all my ideas to every stupid american policies.

From Moscow to Los Angeles, everything west of China is divided, subtle and different. There is no west and therefore no western propaganda.

And I d say the american propaganda seems to work better than the French one. Where we try convince there is diversity, all you say is that "western propaganda is primitive" :(




There IS a more or less common understanding about what "Western" in the context mean. You want to waste time arguing semantics - be my guest. I have zero desire.


“Western” is a shortcut for the dominant alliance of imperialist countries: US, UK, most of Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Materially also Israel and Japan, but rarely in rhetoric.

The concept is used both to critique the imperialist countries and to strengthen their alliance, by different people.


Rather odd to describe Canada and New Zealand as imperialist. How far do their empires extend?


Canadian finance capital own a great deal of the worldwide mining operations, if not a majority by now. They extract a great deal of value from poor countries through unequal exchange.

New Zealand is a less prolific exporter of capital, but does it all the same.




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