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The Internet has been cut in Myanmar for the 36th consecutive night (twitter.com/netblocks)
123 points by lawrenceyan on March 22, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 26 comments



It is said by some Burmese people that George Orwell wrote three books about Burma; Burmese days, Animal Farm, and 1984


Which makes me to believe the country is beyond its own ability to recover.

Every period of relative normality Burma had was ending in total mess when bad actors catch their breath, and strike back.

Somebody else from outside must come, and fix it.


>Somebody else from outside must come, and fix it.

I wonder how often / if that ever happens.


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Your position is that the reason we are not intervening in Myanmar is because we're too distracted by social justice and gender politics?


CAIDA's IODA project has good data on Myanmar internet outages:

https://ioda.caida.org/

https://ioda.caida.org/ioda/dashboard#view=inspect&entity=co...


They're not stupid. Lenin showed them the way: Telephone Telegraph, Radio and Newspapers (and today TV, Internet and GSM/Cellular networks).


You think the Myanmar junta are marxist-leninists? That's the weirdest perspective I've seen on it all year.


Does it matter? Its authoritarian behavior regardless of the sales pitch.


Yes, of course it matters. There are much closer examples temporally, politically, and physically that Myanmar would have actually learned from (e.g., India's Modi shutting down Kashmir's internet beginning in 2019). Trying to associate the actions of Myanmar's military junta with a movement a century past and on the opposite political spectrum is an obvious and tortured stretch by the GP and its upvoters to indirectly attack their current political enemies.


The OP wasn't associating with Lenin, just the method to take over and control a population. Surely you see the similarities - pedantism aside.

Lenin was one of the first modern leader to use these tools.


Or you could interpret their message to mean authoritarian..


Whatever the authoritarian folks claim to be... their practices are often the same regardless.


India[0] still holds the record at 159 days!

[0]: https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/indias-top-court-ha...


This reminded me of the earlier story about not getting deferral request [1] due to Internet cut off from a student in Myanmar.

[1] https://www.blogto.com/city/2021/03/york-university-professo...


What's the point of only cutting it at night?


When they’ve cut during the day they disrupt the whole economy, as well as their own communications. Great background here: https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/in-myanm...


Further background on the western tech the Myanmar military is using to maintain power: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/world/asia/myanmar-coup-m...


This is a good illustration of why a general strike would be the most impactful form of protest. The government relies on the work of these citizens every single day to maintain power.


Exactly. It's not clear what's going on from the tweet or article.

I think it's an interesting question. How much do you weaken the opposition from limiting the internet to periods.

You can't stop chunks of information. Video still comes in and out. But you do stop the flow.

For instance the West is less interested in day old protest footage, than 'Breaking'.


And they're cutting it when the West is awake to consume something live.


I would guess that you never weaken the core opposition, but sympathetic other folks working in the day... you might limit their exposure to the core folks.


they need it during the day for banks to carry out operations, etc.


The Burmese people kept quiet, and possibly supported the genocide of rohingyas. Now the chicken has come home to roost. Their neighbours, us Indians, made similar mistake with Kashmiris, and now we are paying the price for it as the whole country has become authoritarian.[1] Classic examples of Martin Niemöller's poem.

[1] https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/research-organisation-d...


Why are these blocks getting more attention than Uganda’s? Is it because Myanmar is less friendly to the West or what?


More or less what Myanmar so called democratic government was doing to its Muslim Rohingya population was forgotten as the government was democratic. India had cut of internet for months in Kashmir but little news in the western media. Even today Chinese atrocities against Uighur minorities are talked about every week but no one talks about Kashmir or the other minorities in India being marginalized by the current Modi government. With the internet and all the news sources available you realize all the good evil, black and white paraded about in the media or global organizations has little to do with actuall ground realities but mostly propagandas of different countries and interests.


Chinese “atrocities” against Uighurs are talked about every week because it’s a story invented and pushed by the US state department. It’s the WMDs in Iraq of this decade.

My understanding is that the Rohingyan genocide in Myanmar is legitimate, but I’m curious why Myanmar is receiving so much attention at this point.




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