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You mean some sort of organization where workers unite to advance their common interests?



Since the other comment where I replied trying to unpacking these two comments got flag-killed and it seems some are haranguing over the stylistics of the posts here, let me try running with this:

I think workspace design and office ergonomics are a potentially easy win for collective bargaining in the information workforce, especially now-as stated by others this is a unique opportunity and in my opinion the incentives align between worker productivity and public health.

Interested to hear more thoughts.

Edit: oh. This one flag killed too. Never mind.


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From the HN guidelines:

Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


ha, thanks. I’ll fix it now.


Please don’t reduce talks of worker collective action into a shibboleth of “%online_community% is turning into Reddit”. We can do better than that.

Like supporting collective worker action.


They mean chains of memes and call response waves and not just saying what you mean. eg the leading jokes about collective.


Ok.

I still think they bring an interesting bit of salt and pepper to the discussion: open-workspaces bring out a lot of opinions from workers and employees, and in my opinion are pretty low hanging fruit for a newly collectively-organized white collar workforce in 2020.

Your thoughts?


I think you're not getting many responses because few people agree with you or don't care. or because you are threadjacking. you may think your post is on topic but I don't think a lot of people would.

Also I can't parse most of your message. I think you are so far into your belief in this premise that no one can follow what you are saying; you are making a LOT of assumptions that others aren't.

For instance I have no idea what "newly collectively-organized white collar workforce in 2020" means. or "open-workspaces bring out a lot of opinions from workers and employees"


open-workspaces bring out a lot of opinions from workers and employees

...thoughts?

Yes. It brings opinions out from people with certain personality traits.


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You’re certainly free to clear up what you were referring to versus being intentionally vague, but instead of a protracted debate over unclear drafting versus poor reading comprehension, let’s just get back on topic:

Do you think collective worker action is a valid path to take during this pandemic to improve working conditions as areas consider reopening and lifting quarantine restrictions?

I do, and I agree with others who say this opportunity is a good one to explore some of those options and begin having some of those dialogues to build effective coalitions.


I'm not who you're responding to, but I agree with you completely. I just wish the posts upthread hadn't cluttered up the thread with vague dance-around-the-subject language, instead of just stating what they thought and why they thought it.


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I apologize if asking for your opinion on unionization was read as having made the assumption that you were full-on against unionization, the purpose of me asking for your input was a precise attempt to avoid assuming what your opinions were.

If that’s what you thought I said, then this is on me to phrase myself better in the future.




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