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Re: Asafoetida - anyone got a good way to use it?

Bought it a while ago because of an Indian curry recipe that called for 1/8 of tsp per bucket, but never got around to actually adding it, because of its eye-popping burnt rubber aroma.




It's an amazing aromatic addition to potato curry. Just a tiny drop (1/4 teaspoon) adds a subtle dimension to a large pot of potatoes. It's almost like a flavour enhancer.

A word of warning: It is very potent. I store mine in a pot wrapped in two sealed plastic bags which is in turn put in a sealed jar. My spices cupboard still reeks of it the moment I open it.


Most indian cooking, especially lentils use it. It's always used in tempering, which means you add it in hot oil a few seconds before you dunk it in the dish.

It is also used as a replacement for garlic in dishes, for people who refuse garlic for religious reasons.


> for people who refuse garlic for religious reasons

I've never heard of this. What religions ban garlic? (and pity for them, I love it!)


I'll try and explain why Jains do not eat garlic (along with other rooted vegetables like onions and potatoes):

When taking out the entire plant, you also take out any organisms like bugs and such from their ecosystem, killing them in the process. Jains try and limit the amount of violence they cause (Ahimsa), so in turn they try and avoid eating rooted vegetables.

On top of this, by removing the whole plant you prevent them from sprouting again, which is effectively "killing" in Jainism.

All of this being said though, modern agriculture techniques kind of make this reasoning insignificant. Mass farming practices mean that all plants are effectively killed along with any organisms in that area when harvesting.

And to top it all off, many Jains do not follow this practice, at least in the US. Many of my family eat all of these things, maybe trying to avoid them during Paryushan (holy week).


How do you grow any crop without killing weeds and pests?


By growing a lot more of it (which prevents the birth of whatever would have grown in its place, but that's an invisible effect and technically not killing).

Also, grow mixtures of plants together that naturally crowd out weeds, inhibit the spread of pests, and replenish certain nutrients like nitrogen. IMHO this is grossly under-studied but could become more relevant with smarter robotics.


Also by growing hardier (but usually less productive) varieties, and growing multiple varieties of the same base vegetable rather than a single one, while I don't think that's the case for macro-scale parasites (insects) it's common for e.g. fungi to only attack some varieties of a specific vegetable.


How do you even establish an initial batch of the crop large enough to crowd out all weeds, without killing the existing weeds to start with?

Plants are hypercompetitive and constantly fighting for space and resources. The only reason modern agriculture works is we are so effective at killing weeds with machines and herbicide. Otherwise crop fields would quickly be taken over by whatever grows the fastest.


I don't know how they do their farming in practice, but I'm pretty confident that it involves more land use and lower yields.

They may also adapt their diet to whatever is the most edible among the weeds. This year a grape vine mysteriously sprouted in my garden and started taking over before I realized what it was and murdered it to save the zucchinis. A Jain would probably be happy enough with the grapes. I had even considered adopting it.


I think the idea is limiting the number of organisms total that you kill.


Jain religion as well as certain offshoots of Hinduism itself.

Onions and garlic are thought to promote carnal thoughts and violate the "sattvik" food lifestyle.

Very interestingly, Kashmiri Hindus eat meat, but are forbidden onions or garlic.


Jain vegetarianism (strictly interpreted) bans root vegetables (amongst many other things), in Gujarat restaurants (already vegetarian) have special symbols to mark "jain-safe" items in the same way western restaurants might mark vegetarian or kosher/halal items.


None of the other replies have mentioned Hare Krishnas (an offshoot of Hinduism). They are vegetarian: not only do they not eat meat but they also avoid eggs – though dairy products are seemingly alright. They distribute vegetarian food to the homeless and have a number of vegetarian restaurants around the world (mostly branded as Govinda's). As a vegetarian for 20 years or so, I tried their restaurants a number of times but the lack of onions or garlic put me off their food.

At the time, I asked them about this and the reply was that onions and garlic are considered to be stimulants and spiritually bad for you. The following article further elaborates on this explanation (best consumed with a pinch of salt): http://www.krishna.com/domains/d6.krishna.com/why-no-garlic-...


Buddhists. Some choose to not consume the five pungent plants. Why? Because they believe they stink.



Jains, Buddhist monastics.


I would guess that op is referring to "conformist" as the religious group in question..


Asafoetida - "The devils dung" http://archive.aramcoworld.com/issue/200904/devil.s.dung-the... The most awful smelling spice in my cupboard. I have to put the spice bottle in a zip lockbag that is then put in another larger airtight glass jar otherwise the entire house smells like it.

Is used in Indian cooking - a pinch in hot oil transforms into a subtle flavor and aroma that people claim to be a replacement for onions and garlic. Used extensively in Jain cooking since the Jain religion prohibits use of onion and garlic in food. See http://www.manjulaskitchen.com/ for delicious vegetarian Jain recipes. Almost all her traditional recipes use asafoetida (aka "hing" in indian recipes). Look for her recipes around 2012/13 since those are the home cooked recipes before she went viral in the indian community.

This recipe with potatoes is simple http://www.manjulaskitchen.com/aloo-jeera-potatoes-with-cumi... . Use lemon juice as a replacement for mango powder.


The aroma changes significantly when cooked.


Just put it in, it's pretty amazing when the food is cooked :)


Yeah, I've hoyed it into a wide variety of dishes, especially when cooking 'under the influence' and found it goes with a wide variety of foods.

I think "if a dish would benefit from onions or garlic, then a pinch of fetid ass would go as well"


Is that the salt or the black garlic? Because both of those are vile ingredients. I've had them and they just do not belong in my western pallet.


It's in a form of a beige very fine powder.


It's the dried (and ground) sap of a plant - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asafoetida




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