Yes, those TDPs made them dead on arrival for me. I moved to mini-ITX for my main system and won't be going back. There's no room in my case for any watercooling hardware. I run a Ryzen 7 1700 which is a 65W TDP 8 core, 16 thread CPU.
I was going to hold off for Intel's response, but I knew they wouldn't have anything with 8 cores that was anywhere near 65W TDP. CoffeeLake should offer lower TDPs, but with 6 cores max which seems unappealing compared to 8C.
I'm going to revisit Intel after they've had time to prepare a real response to Ryzen in ~2020 or so.
One of the best computer investments I've made, since getting my first SSD. Instead of a loud whine occasionally, I get a steady hum. I have a Silverstone SG13 case, which is about the size of a sneaker box, fit into that one without any issues.
I've built multiple mini ITX cases with WC, but in anycase AMD calculates TDP in a very different manner to Intel, they calculate the average sustained power draw over a period of time which includes throttling, Intel calculates it based on the maximum instantaneous power draw possible.
Intel has changed the power distribution design, it now has a linear voltage regulator on the CPU, it seems that some of the motherboards have issues with it.
I was going to hold off for Intel's response, but I knew they wouldn't have anything with 8 cores that was anywhere near 65W TDP. CoffeeLake should offer lower TDPs, but with 6 cores max which seems unappealing compared to 8C.
I'm going to revisit Intel after they've had time to prepare a real response to Ryzen in ~2020 or so.