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New Year’s Resolutions for Introverts (quietrev.com)
202 points by shankarvellal on Jan 2, 2017 | hide | past | favorite | 74 comments



0. Stop caring about binary labels that bin you in a category A or B, limiting how you perceive yourself.

5 years ago, I'd definitely have called myself an introvert- except I used it as a crutch to justify certain behaviors that were actually harming my broader self development. Just do what feels right for you- don't want to go to that party? Don't! But maybe interpret it more as "I'm not feeling it tonight" rather as a consequence of an eternal truth about yourself.

Avoid thought patterns of the form "well of course I can't do X/of course this would make me feel Y- I'm an introvert!". Sure, I'm still more on the quiet "stay at home alone" side of things than most people my age, but I still did a lot of work on getting out of my comfort zone and getting better at small talk, and other silly social interactions, etc, and while it was painful at first it made me a much more balanced, well rounded person. It led to meaningful connections and friendships I'd never have had otherwise.

EDIT: can't agree enough with laynnn's comment.


Alternatively,

0. Stop letting people tell you that your personality and preferences are defective, and the only way to be a functioning human is to adopt theirs.

It's not more correct to be at home on the dance floor. Exhortations to "get out of your comfort zone" and adopt behaviors that are the most fun, natural thing in the world for the person making the exhortation are... unconvincing, at least. Over time I've come to believe that it's really all just preferences, with one side being at times obnoxiously preachy about theirs.

We are not lesser. The compulsively social have as much to learn from us as we do from them. I mean, sure, work to change your behaviors to the extent you feel is useful, but you don't have to start from the assumption that your current state is inferior.


Breaking out of your comfort zone isn't about addressing defects, it's about growing as a person.

If you are content staying in, great. Many people face paralyzing fear or anxiety and want to overcome it or maybe just aren't happy with 100% of who they are. If you are, great, I don't think you're the target audience.


> Breaking out of your comfort zone isn't about addressing defects, it's about growing as a person.

Do you think it's the discomfort itself that helps you grow as a person, or something else? If not, what?

For myself, I think I've probably got about as good as I'm going to get at faking sociability. Sometimes that's useful, but I don't see much point in experiencing discomfort for discomfort's sake.


For me it's more that breaking out of that comfort zone will let me get more opportunities for myself and meet more interesting people.


Some things are not fun. Being in a room filled largely with strangers is Not Fun, if they're all drinking it's Double Plus Not Fun.

There is a chance that doing a not fun thing will result in longer term gains of fun via meeting people, but strangely when I'm miserable and uncomfortable it's unlikely I'll make friends and influence people. So I'll weight that with an appropriately small number and find that my overall happiness is higher by avoiding the above scenario.

I could of course start drinking to take the edge off but that doesn't seem like a great idea overall. I'll stick in my comfort zone for now, where it's comfy. And there's tea.


Once someone who knew about astrological signs and charts and stuff told me people were actually supposed to change signs as they mature.

Then he "did my chart" on an interactive website and told me my second sign was the same as the first one.


Read GuiA's comment again. Being social in slightly uncomfortable situations led to meaningful relationships that would not have occurred otherwise.

The point is sometimes a little discomfort can lead to benefits greatly outweighing the discomfort.


Everything GuiA said and remember, you are the only constant in your life. That awkward thing you did? To everyone else it's just a blip. 30 seconds of someone doing something weird versus the other 604,800 seconds in the week. Nobody but you cares.

Or as someone more eloquent than me put it: People would worry a lot less about what others think of them if they realized how little they do.

Or put even a third way: you're the main star in your movie. In everybody else's you're a very minor side character. Often barely an extra.

This means you can do almost whatever and see what works. Experiment. Say stupid shit.


The only caveat I have to that is that it is important to learn enough about yourself to know the difference between really not wanting to do something and being anxious about doing something, they can feel very similar. It can be easy to talk yourself out of doing new things or putting yourself in a challenging social situation that you will actually benefit from and likely enjoy, and it took me a while to learn the difference and not let myself get away with doing things just because I was anxious and told myself "I'm an introvert thats why!".


I am a white, male, heterosexual, married, tall, bald, bearded, introvert.

None of these binary labels affect how I perceive myself, they are just very useful in communicating who I am to other people. I understand your point, that there are spectra of manifested behaviors, but as a self-identifying introvert I find much within the article syncs with my feelings, even if it isn't advice I would necessarily follow.


>Stop caring about binary labels that bin you in a category A or B, limiting how you perceive yourself.

These "binary labels" allowed me to read about other people's experience and feel "normal", that my disdain for certain experiences or environments wasn't a flaw. In fact, it's common. You can dismiss them, but they've been helpful to me.


I semi-agree, but I actually liked the article precisely because opinions like yours are the only ones I ever hear. I agree that it's probably a good idea to go outside sometimes even if you don't feel like it. But you should not discount the possibility that for some people, spending more time outside your comfort zone is going to yield diminishing returns, and ultimately just deliver the advertised discomfort.


yup. being introvert is more about how the brain perceives social interaction. introvert people just feel other activities more rewarding.

relevant comic: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3f/d8/7f/3fd8...


It's well known by now that introversion/extroversion is not binary but a range. Do we really need to point this out every time the author doesn't mention it?


Agreed, thanks for writing this.

I would also add a 0.5) Stop waiting a full year to change things you want to change. Resolutions can be made at a faster pace!


> interpret it more as "I'm not feeling it tonight"

I agree somewhat but above is generally not how it goes. It usually is the case of "I never feel" which then becomes a loop from which you never come out. So, there's actually nothing wrong with having a framework/label, binary or otherwise.


People are going to label you whether you choose to participate or not. It is what it is.


I don't believe neither in the existence of introversion or extraversion.

Articles like this reinforce a certain paradigm of behaviour as something inescapable or unchangeable, thus limiting one's ability to explore their environment in more productive ways. I believe it limits one's freedom and one's capacity to change.

Sure, you can take a bunch of people and according to any measure that you create, generate enough statistics that conform to the particular linguistic structure that is behind your hypothesis.

But that doesn't mean that the structure is really there.

If you change either your environment or your perception of it your behaviour will change accordingly. If you reinforce your baseline perceptions and avoid looking at them in a more distant way you will not change your behaviour.

I was very introverted as a child, due to some shattering events in my childhood and always assumed it was a part of me, it was my nature. As time has passed I've changed, not to say that I've become textbook extroverted, but I see my environment differently and I can embrace things in a more productive way. I can move between those definitions of interpersonal behaviour and be aware of what triggers certain patterns that I'm already aware of, and move into mental spaces that I don't feel can be described by this binary classification.

Language, as in your internal narrative, can become either your freedom or your prison. You can choose where you lay down your walls, or if you will lay them down at all.


I see where you're coming from -- its not a good thing to give excuses to people that hinder their growth. But...

Theres this notion of a "highly sensitive person". I hate describing a person as sensitive because it kind of implies a person that watches romantic comedies all day, but, if you take "sensitive" as a person with hightened awareness of subtle cues, theres a plausible basis to think that there are people that just are way more sensitive. Imagine if every sound you heard was twice as loud as what everyone else heard. On the one hand, you would have super hearing, but on the other hand, you would probably hate loud concerts.I'm not saying introverts ear better, but maybe they pick up on things you dont, and maybe every element costs a little bit more energy.

So like, yeah, some people use introversion as an excuse not to grow, but some other people pick up on 5x more detail than their more normal compatriots and find themselves thusly exhausted a lot quicker.

I'm kind of in your boat where I see facebook acquaintances sharing articles about introversion or aspergers and im like "maybe you just need some social skills" but I dont think the condition doesnt exist.


I would identify myself as an introvert, and I feel differently. I don't hear everything at twice the volume; I hear everything at half the volume, while loud background music plays. Every interaction, I'm having to watch for those cues more carefully, I'm having to strain to listen.

That's why I feel like an introvert; socializing with people is fun, but will eventually drain me.


But you really have to be careful not to mix introversion, shyness and social anxiety.

They might somehow look the same, but they certainly aren't and you can't just overcome your introversion like you can overcome your shyness or social anxiety.


Could you elaborate on what differs shyness and social anxiety?


I would say a shy person doesn't fear social situations, but might be at the beginning a bit reserved, needs a bit more time to warm up with foreign people and might be a bit overwhelmed when meeting to much foreign people at once.


Thanks! Do you have any references to back this up?


Well it's just a definition of a word. You could define "shy" to mean anything you like, as long as it works for you.

As far as I can see, the grandparent's definition of shyness matches my experience with shy people very much (and also the depiction of shy people in media that I consume).


The problem is that the word was invented way before we started really talking about social anxiety. It might be the same thing after all, don't you think?


I think it's the difference between having fear of social situations and therefore to avoid them, or to prefer not to be that much in social situations, because they overwhelm you.

There's no sharp definition of both that clearly differentiates them, at the end it's about personal traits that can't be clearly defined like a math equation, but IMHO the key thing for me is, if fear is the determining force and not your free will.

Please don't ask now about the free will. ;)


There is actually some science behind the introvert vs. extrovert definitions. Of course, like most brain-related things, we don't know everything, but here is a decent layman's article on the subject: http://www.medicaldaily.com/brain-introvert-compared-extrove...


You're right insofar as they are unhelpful and artificial structures when people hide behind them or use them as an excuse for doing (or not doing) something. Particularly when they know they shouldn't be. Having the "I couldn't because I'm a ..." thing is self-deceptive.

But there is a very real difference between the two groups in terms of how they 'recharge' or 'relax'. I'm an introvert, which is to say that I prefer to spend time on my own to mentally relax. I am perfectly capable of socialising - and need to as much as anyone else - I just need to balance it with alone time.

Socialising to me is exhausting. I need it, I enjoy it, but it is work and it tires me out. Others recharge from the socialising, and in that context it's useful and important information.


As an introvert, I found this to be an excellent article with excellent advice. The author did a great job of detailing what it means to be an introvert, and detailing the societal traps that introverts tend to fall into.

Growing up, I had a lot of people tell me that I needed to "Get outside [my] comfort zone," "socialize more," and "push [myself]." None of those things ever made me happy. They just drained me emotionally, and I couldn't wait to get home and read, write, or program something by myself.

As the author mentioned in resolution 1, introverts have limited energy for socializing. It drains us. It's not about being cowardly and shy, and having to muster up our courage and break through some social barrier that is holding us back. It is more like running on a treadmill at the gym. Eventually, you're going to get tired and worn out. It isn't like you can push through some invisible mental barrier and then run and run forever. Socializing is like running on a treadmill for introverts. It wears us out. I think a lot of people, even introverts, don't really understand this. Extroverts are charged emotionally by social activities. Introverts are drained. Therefore, it doesn't make sense for an introvert to just suck it up and act like an extrovert.


For an introverted it's really draining to always see the same pattern in threads about introversion: that it's mixed with shyness and social anxiety, and that all three are considered to be overcomable in the same way.


Agreed.


>Say no to social events that promise little meaningful interaction.

That's a horrible one. Minor details are the bricks of a relationship, the closer you are the more bricks--in quantity or quality--you contribute. If you don't have any bricks to offer, it is difficult to establish or to sustain a relationship. For instance, small after work gatherings often seem a waste of time, especially to those who aren't innately fond of socializing or unable to proficiently judge the value of such, yet exactly these have a chance to provide a more intimate atmosphere. Also, even a single wasteful meet-up might count as a step and with some number of steps you'd also cover a bit of distance.

As such, it isn't that there aren't meaningless meetings but it's the recommendation to evaluate and avoid such that is misleading.

Instead, one should be aware that because one has to invest energy to socialize one automatically tends to avoid doing so at all, which again reduces the amount one can store. Hence, do not avoid spending your energy supply but learn to judge the highest and to improve your returns on investment. What good return supposed to be is subjective but one shouldn't forget that profound happiness and success is build not suddenly acquired.

>7. Have more meaningful conversations and less small talk. Research suggests that the happiest people have twice as many meaningful conversations—and do less surface-level chitchat—than the unhappiest.

Avoiding small talk won't lead you to more meaningful discussions. It's common sense that people are happier if they found someone to converse with more in-depth but that doesn't reduce the value of small talk. You can't reach the station of happiness by skipping the traveling part, and traveling is often like long grinding work.

By the way, inversion isn't about the ability to socialize. The lack thereof is just a consequence of a more isolated course of life.


The kind of conversation is highly environmental: I'm about 100x as likely to have a serious conversation at a hacker meetup as a random night at the bar.

That doesn't mean there's no small talk at a hacker meetup, but rather, if I'm looking to optimize the number of deep conversations to chitchat, some social settings are better than others.

So avoiding "normal" bar chitchat to attend meet-ups focused on topics with deep potential does lead to more meaningful discussions.

(And hacker meetups are fun in that sometimes, people join on deep conversations and only then feel comfortable moving on to small talk, rather than the usual reverse.)


The nuanced difference between avoiding small talk and pursuing deeper conversations is quite significant since telling people to avoid superficial talk usually leads to the misunderstanding of the value of such.

Starting out with a topical interaction is often the easiest way to establish a relationship and one can become quite close despite restricting each other to serious topics. But, there will always be a serious limit to how far you can go with just that. It is quite difficult to call someone a friend if you never shared something personal and trivia, but it works well if your aim is to stop at a working relationship with that colleague.

And don't forget that the 7th point is about the general approach to socializing or life rather than specific gatherings only, hence my broad descriptions.

>I'm about 100x as likely to have a serious conversation at a hacker meetup as a random night at the bar.

That is actually not a valid comparison. If you meet with someone of some common interest in a bar there's little preventing you from having a serious debate. You just need to seek out a location that allows you to converse comfortably.


I partly agree with you (especially about #7) though as someone who's currently working on expanding his circle of friends, some social gatherings (I use Meetup.com a lot) provide better opportunities than others: noisy bars/restaurants where it's almost impossible to have conversation beyond a sentence a couple words long, limit the ability to get to know someone and find what you have in common/build rapport. Same goes for movies.


> noisy bars/restaurants where it's almost impossible to have conversation beyond a sentence a couple words long

I'm seriously asking myself how anyone can enjoy these.


Why would I want to add bricks to relationships I have no interest in? You fail to understand that socializing simply isn't high priority for some people.


Have you even read the paragraph of the first point that I'm criticizing? It's about people who want to socialize but frustrate themselves doing so.

Not to mention that it is on you to set the bar of the relationship you want to pursue and I never implied otherwise.


> It's about people who want to socialize but frustrate themselves doing so.

Where does it say that? I read it as you should just embrace your introvert gut-feeling and not attend social events just because it would be "abnormal" not to. I struggle with this myself and think it's a great advice. Some people are just not the social type and there's nothing wrong with that.


What does introvert even mean? I've heard shy people who are energized by talking to others described as introverts, and I've heard outgoing people who have to be alone to energize described as introverts. These descriptions are the opposite, but they're given the same label. Then you have articles like this one, where some of the bullet points make sense for both types of people I describe, some make sense for only one, and some make sense for neither. Online discussions about introversion are usually just as confusing.

Then at some point the term "ambivert" became popularized, with claims the majority of people fall into a vague middle category (http://www.today.com/health/winning-personality-advantages-b...). But this doesn't really clarify anything to me, from what I can tell it just adds another label onto a spectrum that isn't well-defined.

I'd love clarification on this, especially if anyone has a good authoritative source on it.


Summarized from Susan Cain's book "Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking"

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A very basic definition is that introverts have a preference for quiet, minimally stimulating environments.

This means that introverts tend to enjoy quiet concentration, listen more than talk and think before they speak. They tend think more and focus on quality over quantity in most things and tend to focus intently on a single project at a time (i.e. friendships and how they engage projects and hobbies at work/during free time).

Extroverts are energized by social situations and tend to be multi-taskers who think out loud and therefore need others' feedback to validate their ideas or nudge them in the right direction.

---

I highly recommend the book, especially if you think you're an introvert or have difficulty accepting yourself as one. It really helped me see that it was OK being introverted and that there were certain advantages that extroverts don't have


I don't see how introversion and extroversion are mutually exclusive. Sometimes I prefer being alone and concentrating on something (eg. thinking, writing, coding, etc), other times I prefer socializing with other people.

What does that make me - someone who's sometimes introverted and sometimes extroverted? In that case these labels aren't very useful are they? Not to mention everything is relative. I'm more social than the average software engineer, but less social than the average salesperson.


This taxonomic question always comes up in HN discussions of personality type - see also, whenever Myers Briggs is discussed.

My take is that some people are well characterized by being on one side of a dichotomy - say, introvert/extrovert, or analytical/intuitive. They really get something out of discussions like in TFA, because they fit the class. And the fit can provide a powerful high-level diagnostic on a lot of otherwise inchoate feelings.

But, some folks are not well captured by the dichotomy - like yourself. These people tend to say that TFA is reductive and simplistic, and does not capture reality.

And both sets of people are right. For themselves.


Do you think it's possible that your (well-thought-out) post could replace "people are well characterized by being on one side of a dichotomy" with "people are more comfortable thinking they are on one side of a dichotomy", without losing any resolution?


For me, that weakening seems inaccurate. And going further, I really do believe some people besides me are well-characterized, in part, by the introvert/extrovert divide.


There's a concept of an 'ambivert' too, which sits in the middle.

The popular understanding of introversion and extraversion has necessarily simplified the whole set up to 'loud, socialising people', and 'quiet, solitary' people.

Neither are true - both are caricatures of the truth.

I think it comes down essentially to how you recharge mentally - you do it in company by bouncing off others, or you do it alone.

Neither precludes the capabilities traditionally ascribed to either camp - introverts are perfectly capable of being social, as much as extraverts are perfectly capable of being cerebral.


The book discusses this point well. (Arguably the article could have done a better job with this.) Seriously, it's a good book and I would recommend it.


I've always heard the first group you mention called extroverts (while the second is introvets).

I have my old MBTI lit from college, and it seems to agree with that -- extrovet versus introvert has to do with your focus and how you relax.

A common introvert versus extravert trait (and is the main one I used for the labels) is that introverts compose internally while extroverts compose externally -- eg, introverts take a few seconds to compose a reply, then say it while extroverts tend to talk their way through coming up with one. That behavior seems to be the one the other introvert/extrovert behaviors cluster around. (It also is one of the fastest to bother the other -- expecting them to compose in the opposite style.)


So for a source, I would recommend "The Highly Sensitive Person". The theory is this: some people are more sensitive. They pick up on the microgesture you maybe dont. They hear the small vocal cue or see the change in posture. Our brains -- thinking in general -- its expensive! If you process things more quickly, it's plausible your batterys drain a bit quicker too. Evolutionary speaking, everything has a cost. Look is this true? I dont know the science has to be sorted out, but it is plausible.


Do you think it is possible for this to be sorted out by science? It seems non-nullifiable, which generally puts it in the not-science category when I think of social science.


I don't think the label of introvert or extrovert, no matter what the definition, can describe a human wholly. We all have tendencies. I think if you tend to be an introvert by your actions than you are an introvert. For those, who claim to be introverts and are extroverts, they may be more likely seeking attention and/or are types of performers than the typical introvert.

You might be interested in learning more about the Kolbe ($$) test. It is better than the well-known Myers-Briggs test.

http://kolbe.com


So many comments here amounting basically to "don't pigeon hole yourself", "get outside your comfort zone", "there is no such thing as an introvert", etc. That's funny because really the whole reason this post exists is to help the author take a stand against exactly these kinds of denials of self (both internal and external). In the social spheres of life, extroverts are dominant, and, at least in the US, represent sort of the ideal temperament. They literally talk more, have more friend connections on average, are more likely to be in positions of group leadership, etc. Unfortunately this leads many introverts to feel marginalized, ashamed, self-hating, you name it. This post represents the rising tide of introverts waking up to the misunderstandings of our temperment and finding healthy ways to assert our differences from the traditionally valued extrovert ideal. Support and encouragement is really the best thing here I think.

Ask yourself, do you ever see blogs, articles, etc. extolling the virtues of being extroverted or making declarations like this article? No, it's just sort of taken for granted.

Heard many extroverts wishing they could be more introverted? I haven't but I do know most introverts struggle in the opposite direction.

It's definitely an asymmetric situation...


This is extremely refreshing. I have a really hard time dealing with the social norm that is being forced on me.

I don't mind being social but no social gathering beats sitting home alone for me. I can do the thing I like the most for free but instead I spend money on things less enjoyable just because you're supposed to be social.


My advice is simple : lists.

Write them. Read them. Live them.

If you see social interaction closely (but not too closely), you will notice it is best kept uncomplicated, low on substance and meaning with absolutely no expectations from others or from you and the attempt to finding a faint sense of connection.

With this in mind, you will realize, uncomplicated things are usually obvious and hence go unnoticed like what you wore to work on the last day of 2016. Thats a conversation starter right there.

When stereotyped, new years eve is about partying or just staying home or something else. Either can continue the conversation further for a couple more sentences.

And if all you care about is telling this to someone you bump into at the water cooler, you're likely to hear something similarly dumb and irrelevant to you.

But, lo and behold, you just had a social interaction. Uncomplicated, light, useless and just that.

Unfortunately, right now, you won't get things to talk about off the top of your mind. So making a list is a life saver.

Here are a few samples: TVs have gotten slimmer over the years. But not people. Being a traveller vs a tourist How your teacher from 4th grade looks so similar to someone you bumped into on your way here. Indian food.

Each can be connected to the next in more than 3 ways if you think :)

After 20 conversations like these, you'll just get good at them. And since you have a list of good conversations, you can always fall back to tried and tested ones. One misconception is that social interaction should just be natural. Puh-lease. Just do this, feel better and do what you really should be doing.


I still see a lot of people describe introversion as "not wanting to do what extroverts do", as if being an introvert is defined by an absence of something.

But for me, time spent by myself isn't an empty expanse that I'm too scared to fill with socializing. It's absolutely vital to me, it's when I can really think, write, read, be creative, experience my emotions, etc.

I'm fine with socializing (preferably in a small group, with close friends -- I don't get much out of parties or big get-togethers) but I need to make room in my schedule for solitude.


Before reading this I was guessing from the title that it was a piece that essentially was going to say 'here is how you can be happier by being an extrovert!'.

After reading I was pleased to find out that was not the case.


Exactly. I'm sad to see that the comments here are trying to lead the discussion that way though.


I am not introverted by any stretch of the imagination, but some of the advice can be summarized as "do this to avoid people" yet in my experience, especially being a "child of the internet", the one's who complain about being alone the most are introverts. I am not saying the solution is to "be more extroverted" but at some point I started thinking, "what gives?"


I don't agree with the "5. Quit pretending to be an extrovert."

Sure, in the first stages you will feel uncomfortable, your heart rate will spike. But I think it's good to practice being more extrovert. I don't mean to change who you are, but leave your comfort zone more, learn new social skills. It's important.


I kinda hate this perspective that introverts have no social skills. Its lazy. So, im an introvert. I've never held it as a shield, its just one of those thing I apparently am. I went out with a girl recently. She was delightful, I was (I think) delightful, the entire thing was fine but after a couple hours I was like "so now I gotta go stare at the sky and not be around people". (I didnt say this of course). Like, I was just done, it wasnt shyness I just felt a strong urge to be alone.


Which is fine, but for the uninitiated they can translate this into disinterest. Make sure she's not confused. In some sense you're better off actually saying something along the lines of what you're thinking; quite literally "it's not you, it's me - I need to go recharge my batteries". It's also useful to figure out a way to be alone together. Instead of 2 hours expecting a conversation the whole time; structure it as maybe 4 hours with intermittent conversation, mostly doing your own thing, but in a shared space.


You're not wrong but I have 30 years of experience ducking out of situations, there was a natural break and it worked out fine


Is it good practice for extroverts to be more introvert? Leave the comfort zone of being around people, and spend more time alone, because it's important to be comfortable being alone?


Yes.


My mom always said "If something is worth doing, then do it today". That in the context of New Years Resolutions - which she thought are stupid. So while granted that we may pay more personal attention to desired changes at the end of the year, those are things to be mindful of all year.


As I was binging on HN over the holidays, I came across this comment from estefan that might be of benefit to some of you who self-identify as introverts. In particular, those introverts who want to become more social (not necessarily extroverted). His realization touches on a pretty touchy subject amongst all of us - 'what does it mean to be happy?' or 'what makes you happy?' and looks at it from an interesting angle.

> Someone asked a few days ago what the best habit was that HNers developed last year and what the health benefits were. I realised I shouldn't do things because I thought they'd make me happy, and it has changed everything. Put another way, I don't only do things I think I'm going to enjoy any more.

It's an incredibly powerful mindset to not have an expectation of happiness or enjoyment as an outcome of an action. I used not to do a lot of things because I couldn't see the point or because I thought I wouldn't like them. Now I do those things anyway, more just to see what they're like rather than because I expect to enjoy them. I do things to see what actually happens instead of limiting myself to my own preconceptions. Most of the time, I'm right, and I don't enjoy those things, but that's OK. They're still showing me different aspects of life and allowing me to exercise arguably our most innate gift, the ability to experience. There have been a few surprises though. I've taken up sports I'd previously discounted, and now I've stuck with them long enough I can see the appeal. I'm learning a musical instrument and get much less frustrated because I see the learning process as just training my brain, a function of time and effort. There's no point in being frustrated.

Now I just view experiences as things to be experienced, without requiring anything more of them. This means there's less pressure on me and on them to give me anything. My attitude to them and awareness of them is more important than deriving happiness and enjoyment.

Now I've written that it reads like zen, but when I practiced zen it was because I wanted to be happy from it. The thing with learning is it's not enough to have the knowledge. You need the insight to really internalise something. It's that "A-ha!" moment. I guess I arrived at the same conclusion as the Zennists from a different direction. Only doing things you think will make you happy is just a way too limiting mindset. It really has been a complete revolution in my approach to life. I can't recommend it enough. And it looks like this attitude will keep my brain healthy too.

> This approach opens you up to far more opportunities. Say you have a spare weekend and you aren't sure what to do with it, but feel like going out. You could use the opportunity to try something you wouldn't normally do: go to an event on something you know nothing about, or even on a subject you don't really like. When you're there, find people who are really into the subject and try to understand from them why they like it. Maybe you'll see what they see, maybe you won't. But this curious mindset will pay dividends if you need to be creative, or develop rapport with people, or just want to see what's out there.

I'd had some things going on and wanted a holiday. So I went on my own. I went out to bars on my own, which I wouldn't have done before because I'd have thought I'd have a had a rubbish night. But I ended up meeting a few people, then a few more and had an amazing night. I realised that it was down to me to make the effort to have a good night, so I started speaking to the people around me.

There are so many opportunities every day just waiting to be taken. I used to close myself off from them because I wanted to somehow cherry-pick in advance only those that would make me happy, or lead to 'good' outcomes. When you remove that constraint, you become open to much more of life.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13295213


I'm taking Vorinostat in order to help extinguish my social anxiety. It has always seemed that I get more anxious after repeated exposure to certain stimuli. Eventually it'll be the point where I just throw up on the floor.


Is this thing about social interaction draining an introvert's energy backed up by convincing research? I see it mentioned in articles all the time. It sets off my BS detector.


I'm an introvert. I wish I had read this earlier in life: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Fr...

I don't think you should join a cult, but the four agreements have become a mantra for me in almost all the relationships I have. And it's a much shorter list than these 12 rules.

It definitely help me understand my interactions with people better:

1. Be Impeccable with your Word 2. Don’t Take Anything Personally 3. Don’t Make Assumptions 4. Always Do Your Best


My advice is: learn howto interact with people. It is skill you must have, even if it is used rarely.

You should be introvert by choice, not for some crypling fear and stereotypes. There is nothing worse to discover late in life, that you are actually extrovert.

Social interactions are easy, but it is hard to see through smoke screen. There are books which deconstruct and explain interactions word by word. There are drugs which temporary bypass anxiety.

Do not listen to people who say it is cool to be introvert (and have even playlist for introverts).

Feynman bio is a good start


Ah, I see the introvert-industrial complex is developing nicely.


beautiful!




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