On: Elementary OS Loki 0.4 Stable Release

[pavanky]

Oh please, just because you don't like something does not mean people in the Linux space before elementary were just slapping stuff together.

Sure, there are a lot of distributions and desktop environments that focus on getting stuff done and let the user customize the look to their needs, but that is hardly the only choice.

For anyone wanting to try out a cohesive setup try one of the following:

- GNOME on Fedora (or Korora if you want binary repos).

- Unity on Ubuntu

- KDE on OpenSUSE

[powerbook5300CS → pavanky]

Sorry. I've used Gnome, Unity, and KDE extensively. There is an incredible amount of work that goes into them sure but they are definitely not polished.

I'm the definition of UnixPorn junkie and customize my linux box to the hilt but even I have to admit when there is a benefit of standardization and the work the elementary people are doing.

[pavanky → powerbook5300CS]

I did not say gnome and KDE. I specifically mentioned gnome on Fedora and KDE on opensuse.

[jahitr → powerbook5300CS]

I used elemeentary os at work for a while.

Looked great at the first view.

Months after using it became a living hell to work with it.

The delay between app switches is a shit.

Swiched to GNOME/Debian. Never looked back.

[oconnor0 → jahitr]

Any idea what causes the slow app switches?

[_phaq → powerbook5300CS]

So, do you have examples of that or anything?

Because otherwise I can just proclaim that GNOME, Unity and KDE are polished and then we're at opinion vs. opinion.

I mean, I don't even really think that Unity is terribly polished, but someone else might (e.g. the commenter you replied to), and then your opinion is not any better than their opinion.

[noobermin → powerbook5300CS]

I'm not sure what you mean by polish. Is it perfect? No. Is it better than say OS X and stays much more out of your way? For me GNOME 3 does a much better job than OS X.

[iamcreasy → pavanky]

I guess he was talking about usability, not the tech behind it.

Gnome/kde/unity all looks and feels good in one area and bad in another. People disagree about what's right with them on a very fundamental level. Juggling between the user experience and maintain the tech behind is has clearly taken a large toll on these desktop environments.

On the other hand (I guess from an average user's perspective) Elementary feels very cohesive. It feels like the one destro has a much nicer balance between the tech and usability.

But it also has its caveats. If I recall correctly, you can't minimize apps on Elementary, you can only close them...

[Bellyache5 → iamcreasy]

There's no minimize button in app windows' title bars, but you can minimize an app by clicking its icon in the dock.

[blacksmith_tb → Bellyache5]

Of course, it proves the overall point, but turning on the minimize button is just a pref, exposed by GNOME-tweak-tool [1]

1: https://askubuntu.com/questions/125765/how-do-i-add-minimize...

[Tom4hawk → iamcreasy]

I'm using this distro since Luna and you always could minimize apps...

[buckbova → pavanky]

I had a #! setup for a couple years that I liked. OpenBox is clean.

I see that the project is continued as BunsenLabs Linux. I'll give that a try as I just wiped my laptop last week.

https://www.bunsenlabs.org/

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=bunsenlabs

[justifier → buckbova]

crunchbang was a great distro and community

they loved their conky ;p

i use openbox and wonder why anyone else would use anything else when using a windowed wm

[aruggirello → pavanky]

I'm using KDE on Ubuntu since 12.04 and IMHO it's just as good as OpenSUSE.

Oh and you forgot to mention Cinnamon on Mint. It's very polished too.

[eitland → pavanky]

Ubuntu, (gnome edition) used to be almost perfect for me.

Same goes for Mandriva (KDE edition).