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Hey thanks so much for sharing this link


Thanks for the reply broken hippo


I'd love to know what drugs you tried, and your fav Kanye songs. I like his old stuff more, even the early mixtape stuff before college dropout, when he was a bit raw and battling his ego openly.


Hey mbrock,

Thanks for your great reply. I think I might read about Van Gogh and try to understand him now. I saw some of his paintings at the MET, my girlfriend was blown away but I was pretty meh at the time. Perhaps I can understand more from his words


I had your same kind of problem, or more like just not having any kind of robust interest in art, and I was living in Amsterdam for a while which of course has great art museums...

I also didn't have an internet connection at home nor a smartphone, so it was really easy to build new interests, not being dopaminergically tethered to the world wide web...

So I decided to get a "museumkaart" which is a cheap way for residents to get endless museum access for a whole year, and to write a little journal about a museum every weekend.

Because I'm a kind of obsessive personality and I didn't have anything else to do I ended up reading quite a bit of whatever relevant stuff I could find to flesh out the journal entries, and that's why I read the Van Gogh letters!

So yeah, I also recommend finding a way to be more disconnected from the internet on evenings and weekends. :)


Good on you, I lived in the Netherlands for 6 months but didn't have the insight yet to engage in such activities.


The boredom of internetlessness has strange side effects...


I'm not sure if it's my 'interest' but the art that seems to interest me most is that with some kind of stated science/anatomy/geometry/clean lined architecture


Do you still require foreign start ups to incorporate in Delaware? Doesn't that undercut boosting the local economy argument


The stable corporate laws of Delaware help startups boost their local economies effectively.


It may surprise you to know countries outside the us have stable corporate laws. I'd hasten to add there's nothing stable about the us right now and I'd be reluctant to incorporate or HQ there


> I'd hasten to add there's nothing stable about the us right now and I'd be reluctant to incorporate or HQ there

You consume too much news, my friend.

> It may surprise you to know countries outside the us have stable corporate laws.

I didn't say nowhere else has stable corporate laws. Delaware just happens to be among the best.


Good, let the reasonable folk settle in DE / the US instead. Not folk who read too much sensationalized news. There may be problems but being unstable isn’t one of em.


I've noticed some people on Twitter, including Susan Fowler and Kara Swisher, saying free speech is only a protection against government intrusion and doesn't apply in the corporate sector. That seems to be mirrored in this article.

The only thing I'd say is that those people should think carefully. Denouncing and shrinking rights such as free speech and normalising their role as negative rights when it is convenient to do so will work against their agenda, and is in common with how people like Trump view other rights


I think it's hilarious you would bring Trump into this example of Silicon Valley PC-group think run amok.

This type of collective mob mentality lashing out at "wrongthink" is why Trump won the election.

This is no more common than with people who hate Trump. This is par for the course with Social Justice Warriors who treat a person's well reasoned point of view citing data as unacceptable sexism that must be eradicated, so he gets fired.

And then you blame Trump. Boggles my mind..


I think you don't understand my comment. I am saying that the people doing what you describe have similarities with Trump.


> This type of collective mob mentality lashing out at "wrongthink" is why Trump won the election.

No, he won with the help of the gutted Voting Rights Act, ridiculously gerrymandered districts, and an electoral college that gives far too much weight to rural racists.


Ironically the primary benefit of free speech was central to the article: you don't just need people who look different from each other, but think different from each other. It's sad to see that we're increasingly putting ourselves in information bubbles at the same time that our culture has decided that we should punish thoughtcrime.

But Google can't really tolerate people with controversial opinions because, ironically, the legal environment. If a person says the wrong thing, the courts will say it created a discriminatory environment. And now that even discussing controversial topics is off the table, I don't see how we can really expect things to improve. We'll just wind up with an increasingly divided society with each part living in their own alternate reality.


I think you missed the point. Nobody is shrinking or denouncing rights because right of free speech never protected against corporate sector sanctions. You are the one who is trying to expand free speech to protect you in places that no one intended.


maybe we need to re-evaluate free speech protections to bring them into alignment with today’s world, where certain corporations can be (arguably) more powerful than governments


That's arguable. Do you mean the right to free speech as found in the US Constitution doesn't extend to the corporate sector? That's true, SCOTUS agrees thus far.

Does some right to free speech not sourced in law, but perhaps morality or elsewhere, or even rooted in democracy, extend anywhere? I think that's well arguable.


The issue is that consequence-free speech quickly bumps up against the paradox of tolerance.

I think there can be a debate around where the cutoff line for what's acceptable is but no line at all most likely won't work.


As a general matter, the fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it.


It's not about suppressing speech because it's offensive, it's about suppressing intolerance to preserve tolerance.


Free-speech is pretty well defined in the US - Who is defining "tolerance"?


Free speech is not free of consequence.


Then on what basis is it free? Can I also fire pro-diversity employees?


did the author shot gun the manifesto or just send it to a few colleagues?

How did it spread so far?

The difference is that one is a few people discussing a thought bubble (good for everyone) the other is inappropriate use of company facilities (not good for everyone or the company).

the first one is not in itself sack-able... but the other may very well be a sack-able offence.


The author was trapped. He shared the document to the "skeptics" internal group asking for feedback. He didn't realize that the skeptics group had been infected by SJWs for years. They swarmed him. It was like dropping a steak in a shark tank.


> The author was trapped. He shared the document to the "skeptics" internal group asking for feedback. He didn't realize that the skeptics group had been infected by SJWs for years.

Sounds like a company sponsored honey pot, even more ammo for an unfair dismissal lawsuit.


yeah ok, this is not really the fault of the author then.

sharing idea's on a small scale is good for everyone, sharing controversial or reprehensible is inadvisable but forgivable.

Those that went public with it, or spread it in outrage need a damned good talking to at least.

but really, I'd say the guy has learned a lot.... it may even make him a better person, isn't that everyone's desire?


Is it something the drug companies wouldn't already have internally?


You know, I'm sure they do have it, but I imagine keeping a dedicated team on it would be costly, maybe it can be abstracted out as a service?

Also, profit aside, perhaps open sourcing it would bring the most value to the most people?


If I was you, I wouldn't want to help the drug companies without getting paid. But I would be interested to see how what you've written could benefit not for profit researchers?

I don't know much about the field, but if I was you I'd probably email Professor Eric Grimson at MIT and see if he has any suggestions how your library could be beneficially shared. He seems pretty nice and into this kind of stuff.


Thanks but that doesn't really cut through the noise. It's not really for dummies, it would be nice if there was a good UI site with simple explanations and solutions. I'm sure this will be decried as trying to simplify something which can't/shouldn't be simplified but it seems otherwise web developers largely stay ignorant


have you seen their Top 10 lists and other cheat sheets? https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Top_Ten_Cheat_Sheet

They're not necessarily great at explaining the issues, but they cover what to do quite extensively.


Thanks that does seem helpful, it could be improved by explaining the background to each of the 10


there is considerable information behind each item for example A1 has its own link [0] describing much in detail. there is an incredible wealth of information there if you poke around a little, I suspect it has everything you are looking to learn.

[0] https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Top_10_2013-A1-Injection


Hey cool idea, I've subscribed.

One feedback - when you press Subscribe it opens a new tab to take you through the Mailchimp flow. Considering there's not much value on the landing page, I think it's better to stay in that tab.


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