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> Conversion Therapy seems a lot like violence to me...

It doesn't to me. Who is right?


The victims are right.

Conversation Therapy is associated with increased suicide risks[1]. People are literally killing themselves as a result of going through that experience. I suggest you think more about it.

You are free to have your own definition of "violence", so let's instead settle on the more specific "psychological abuse"[2] and agree that it's not something we, as a society, should accept.

[1]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/2018...

[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_abuse


It has severe consequences for the victim. While it's not physical violence, it does far more harm than a punch.


Are you really that confident that LGBT is not simply a less-common, totally healthy form of the human experience?


"Millennial" here.

stcredzero.

Street credit. Usually referred to as social status in the neighborhood and local friend groups. Usually used by rappers and African American neighborhoods. However, people living in these neighborhoods don't actually say this today. Typically middle and high school students hear this on TV/radio and use it in their own (usually upper/middle class) circles to increase their social status.

Zero refers to zero street cred. Username plays a pun, the the user actually has zero cred. Again, only used by people outside the "street" aka in middle and high school. Also 98% chance OP is male. I'd say 50-60% white, sice we're on HN. With the other 40-50% being Asian or Indian.

In summary, yes, usernames tell you a lot.


Also 98% chance OP is male. I'd say 50-60% white, since we're on HN. With the other 40-50% being Asian or Indian.

In summary, yes, usernames tell you a lot.

But site demographics tell you a lot more!


I'd guess that the race/gender percentages you have or more so from where you're interacting with stcredzero than there name.


Fascinating. I'm a millenial and grew up in NYC, and I didn't get any of that. But everything you've said makes sense.


Are you an over the top 35/36 year old?


> .... and yet, how many workplaces have an engineering team which are 50% female? 25% female? 10% female? 5% female?

So you're saying, to achieve parity, we need 80-90% of STEM grads to be female and only 10% men?

Or do you think we should bypass the job interview process for women entirely, until we get a 50-50 ratio in software engineering teams?

Shouldn't we apply this to nurses and teachers (for male equality) as well? That is, have more accelerated job and education programs for men?


>Shouldn't we apply this to nurses and teachers (for male equality) as well? That is, have more accelerated job and education programs for men?

I'm not sure if that's a good argument, because maybe male teachers and nurses are disadvantaged. I have no way to tell. Instead I think it's easier to agree that it's better for everyone when everything is merit-based, especially for outsiders who have a much harder time socially (because they're outsiders) than they do professionally (because businesses are usually more rational water cooler clubs, although neither are very rational overall). Not every woman wants to be a woman in tech, some people just want to be in tech.


> When did blind trust in government become the norm on "hacker" news?

I trust my government more than Facebook or Huawei. Open source or neutral 3rd parties don't exist for this kind of thing.


> Anyways, it was worth it, Andrej is doing an amazing job, and OpenAI is still alive :)

Tesla does not even offer their full self driving package anymore. No coast to coast drive yet. Hard to say that's an amazing job.

OpenAI abandons their open source GitHub repos after a year, is now not releasing code, and is always in DeepMind's shadow. Alive, yes. Successful, no.


Did you really expect Tesla to launch full driving? They started with being 5 years behind Waymo and without lidars or high resolution mapping, precise GPS sysyem that Waymo has...basically Elon wanted the impossible.

At the same time Andrej dropped out the idea of a fully learned end-to-end model (that's just impossible with the current deep learning technology), and started replacing the somewhat working heuristics with machine learning methodically one-by-one. Also he ramped up the data gathering pipeline.

He needs to build the full simulation, agent systems that can simulate other drivers/humans, implement reverse reinforcement learning...there's so much to do where Waymo is far ahead (but Tesla is ahead in data gathering).


> Do you really think Subway franchises are running on such razor thin margins that they'd be forced to shutter stores if they had to pay their workforce marginally more?

No.

However, individuals are not entitled to a job. Take it the low hourly wage, or leave it.

Same thing: not everyone is entitled to live in the bay area. Pay the rent, or move elsewhere.


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