You can go really cheap: AMD 8300+$40 mobo/stock cooler +500w psu + gtx 970 + generic mouse/keyboard/monitor + $30 case + 8GB ram + $20 SSD and come out around ~$600.
For an upgradeable Intel solution with a decent SSD/HDD, 16GB of ram, huge case, and a hybrid water cooler: ~$945.
In my situation, I bought a 980ti, Corsair 750w PSU, GPU/CPU hybrid coolers, and new case. It was around ~950, but my older 2600k is keeping up with the times. I'm also doing neural networks/Vive game dev. I really wanted to wait for Nvidia to relase their Pascal line before buying a video card.
That makes my jump into VR/AI cost around 2k (~1000 PC components, ~900 Vive). Yet, a long awaited upgrade. My 4850 video card is from 2008 and could still play current games in lower settings/resolutions.
Side bar: because my GPU wasn't a reference board the hybrid cooler would not mount. I had to hacksaw my brand new card's heatsink and zip tie the fan back to it for the VRM/ram cooling. Anxiety was an understatement. Luckily, the 980ti idles at 75F now and maxes at 120F (from idle 120F/max 180F).
You could do this, but it's still a lot of money for most people to shell out in addition to a VR headset. Most people use laptops, so now they would not only need a desktop but a sufficiently powerful one.
These solutions here are on the low end. Will they still be able to run new VR games in three years? That's another barrier. If I'm shelling out a bunch of money for dedicated PC for my VR headset, I expect it to run new games for at least five years.
On top of that, all of these solutions require people to build their own PCs. Most people don't do this. So the more relevant question is, how much will it cost a consumer to get an off-the-shelf PC that can run all of the launch Rift games?
I'm waiting at least a few years before trying VR. I don't have a desktop, and if I got one just for VR, I would want to make sure the VR solutions are really mature and must haves. Nothing today is anywhere near there, and I expect most consumers feel the same way.
It may be that VR doesn't take off until there are good Playstation and Xbox VR solutions that work right out of the box.
> Will they still be able to run new VR games in three years? That's another barrier
This is one of the biggest problem actually, glad you mentioned it. You can spend a big load of money, but if you get some lags in games in a few years then VR is down the toilet for you.
CFAA is very broad.
"intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains— C) information from any protected computer;"
A court could see "ambiate was authorized to use the work printer for printing -- ambiate hacked the printer to find out the fax machine number and sent a fax" in an absurd world.
This random internet person was never authorized to access this public router. Even if its set to a default username/password. That's the broadness the CFAA.
Just because you set your password to 'password99', doesn't mean you get more protections than the person who leaves their Cisco router set to 'cisco'.
Thanks for the info.
Interesting, I can see the merit in having broad legal protection to stop people from malicious activity. But that does seem a little too broad.
15 years ago, that standard set used to be wget something from packetstormsecurity.org. If no wget: curl it. If no curl: just lynx it. else: move on to the next vulnerable server. Script kiddies were quite lazy back then. I feel old at thirty.
Hasn't changed for the most part. Though it's either exploit db, some creepy looking .pw site you've never heard of, and once or twice, the zips that github provides. And sometimes they'll just scp their stuff onto the box.
Its interesting how many HN users seem to be missing the point of a honeypot. He set this up deliberately to understand the frequency/types of attacks on a random machine on the internet.
From my past experience, most of those CN computers are actually US zero day'd/patched running root kits/worms. It just happens to be that CN computers are more likely to be unpatched/running ancient software.
My hint would be: before decentralized worms, there were IRC hubs. The 'owners' would typically use their native language for the various commands (I know English is used in more than the US, but..). Most of the time, they wouldn't even hide their host name on the IRC server.
I guess from a 'being legal' POV: anyone could infect themselves with the same root kit that's on a honeypot and find out quite a bit about the organizers.
CN = china. So, computers based in china, although I am at a loss as to what the thread parent is saying exactly about "CN computers actually being US". Same with "zero day'd/patched" — aren’t those opposite notions?
It's a little unclear, but if I were to guess I'd say they meant the machines are located in China but have been zero day'd, then patched and root-kitted by the attacker, who was in the US (or at least not China)
This is my dream job. Yet, offering a 65-75k salary for what is essentially a penta-glob of DBA/ops/programming/testing/manager positions is really weak.
Using most of the tools, its very akin to a scan the barcode at a cash register job and look at the results. It is when the scanner beeps in error, that the experience you pay for comes into play. Not to mention, the cost of living in Houston isn't exactly cheap.
This same wage-to-skill disparity for academic-related jobs occurs all over. 75k is actually higher than I would expect for this role in Houston -- some similar jobs in major cities along the East Coast offer about the same pay. Many of these jobs are also contracted for 1-year periods and are contingent on an adviser or project leader continuing to get certain funding from a sponsor organization.
So the pay is usually low, the cost of living is usually high, the nature of the job doesn't provide much job security, and they demand a huge amount of experience and a willingness to work across many other arbitrary areas (e.g. you're hired because of knowledge of sequencing techniques, but really you'll spend time putting out fires in some legacy Ruby on Rails system that sponsors use for some legacy interactive website or something).
These jobs are often the worst of all worlds. It's hard to see how they are able to attract qualified candidates, and likely they aren't. Most likely is that they end up compromising as much as possible on the skill and quality of the person hired, so that they don't have to compete with a higher wage or more stable permanent employment, and so, at least in an IT capacity, you have to be worried before even applying about why your potential colleagues were willing to agree to these particular trade-offs.
It's very sad and disenfranchising because these kinds of jobs used to represent a way to earn a living without needing to engage with traditional corporate bureaucracy. But until these sorts of academic roles begin offering competitive wages and stable, permanent employment, it's probably better to not even dwell on it. If your eyes scan over something matching "academic ... lab", just move on.
It's bioinformatics. Pretty typical, frankly with only requiring a BS it seems like a good deal (though not a ton of people have a BS in bioinfo).
I have similar degree and looking at a lot of jobs in Bay Area, those mostly require MS/PhD and are paying between 70-100k. It seems a lot of these positions want a hardcore programmer who also has a really great scientific background, but pay is lower than a great programmer with no scientific background would get in any other industry.
If you're not an early adopter enthusiast: it may not be a great idea to purchase this right now. You will probably need a PC upgrade to match your new $675 toy. The new generation of Intel/Nvidia is right around the corner. Don't dig yourself into a hole where you buy current flagship and need to upgrade it 9 months down the road from now for Q4's toy.
> The new generation of Intel/Nvidia is right around the corner.
To be accurate, the next Intel process shrink (Cannonlake@10nm) is delayed to 2H 2017. Kaby Lake@14nm fills in for 2016, and mostly features chipset updates (e.g. native USB 3.1 and more PCIE lanes). Likely no socks to be blown off there.
Nvidia with Pascal will be out ~2H 2016, and is probably worth waiting for. AMD will be out with Arctic Islands as well. Both are process shrinks from 28nm.
If you're looking at buying the next generation, it'll be either existing Intel + new GPU 2H 2016, or Cannonlake w/ likely 2016 GPU in 2017.
Given that CPU isn't a bottleneck in existing graphics applications, 2H 2016 is as good of a time to buy as any. Which also happens to mean missing the hype train and letting real-world reviews of HMDs come in before choosing.
2016 Q3/Q4's new fancy toy may not be a RiftV2 and may have a minimum requirement of a Pascal GPU or Skylake/Broadwell-e CPU. Its just a really horrible time to buy computer hardware right now.
1) First generation devices are usually flops/riddled with bugs, but usually exploitable if you don't upgrade firmware/etc.
2) I would probably need to buy a 980TI ($600) or Titan X ($1k) to make up for my i7-2600k's failure. (I want a Titan X for deep convolution neural networks anyways).
3) Nvidia is on the verge of releasing their Pascal architecture. The Titan X was just recently released (Mar '15?). While it is a powerhouse, the pascal base Titan may come with 12-16GB of memory and a 10-20% speed increase.
4) Intel is near release on their broadwell-e platform which should be able to consume 40 pci-e lanes (like haswell-e). No word yet on if they plan on being able to use 40 pci-e lanes with skylake.
Summary: In 1 years time, there will be a base Pascal Titan that outperforms the Maxwell Titan X, a new ~$500 CPU that will be on par with the current $1000 CPU, and an assortment of VR options available. As much as it pains me, unless I see a Titan X for $600-800 on craigslist, I'm going to wait this one out.
Don't know what's wrong with my previous comment, but one can assume NV970 will be more or less main stream at the time the rift goes main stream. And since it's the recommended config (not _minimal_), most game will still be _enjoyable_ with maybe a 960.
No need for a Titan.
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That is pretty damning on the amount of users with a 970/780ti/980/980ti/titan x. My 560ti plays most games at a decent resolution in mid-settings at 144hz. It is hard to validate a $400 replacement for non-time consuming entertainment.
Yes, but a lot of those users with lower end GPU are playing games like League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Hearthstone, Starcraft 2, etc. They are not the players that are going to rush out and order first-gen VR.
> lower end GPU are playing games like League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Hearthstone, Starcraft
None of those games you listed are available on the Steam shop and aren't included in the stats linked. The Steam stats do have tons of other games and is pretty much the most accurate consensus on PC gamer's hardware.
And GTX 970 is pretty much in the top 5% of GPU hardware, the vast majority 90%+ of PC gamers aren't even close to that.
IMO, for Nvidia the *70's are the sweet spot at about $300. They perform well enough that they last for a while and aren't obsolete quickly (my main problem with buying at the lower-middle end), but don't have the absurd diminishing returns of something like the Titans.
The specs of the Oculus Rift are fairly steep and are basically a middle high end gaming PC, but they have said that the requirements won't change over the life of the device so it'll go down. It was about time for a GPU upgrade for me anyway, so I've been pondering over going for a new GPU + Rift.
I sadly got bit today. I bought a Freedompop hotspot. After entering my billing information, and after the processing screen, a screen showed an offer for a $30 phone.
I intended to click Skip, but my mind clicked Accept this offer, because it was the primary button. Its a $30 loss, but inevitably, I will save hundreds with the hotspot.
After the accept this offer, there was no confirmation, just finished the processing screen with no way to cancel the order.
For an upgradeable Intel solution with a decent SSD/HDD, 16GB of ram, huge case, and a hybrid water cooler: ~$945.
In my situation, I bought a 980ti, Corsair 750w PSU, GPU/CPU hybrid coolers, and new case. It was around ~950, but my older 2600k is keeping up with the times. I'm also doing neural networks/Vive game dev. I really wanted to wait for Nvidia to relase their Pascal line before buying a video card.
That makes my jump into VR/AI cost around 2k (~1000 PC components, ~900 Vive). Yet, a long awaited upgrade. My 4850 video card is from 2008 and could still play current games in lower settings/resolutions.
Side bar: because my GPU wasn't a reference board the hybrid cooler would not mount. I had to hacksaw my brand new card's heatsink and zip tie the fan back to it for the VRM/ram cooling. Anxiety was an understatement. Luckily, the 980ti idles at 75F now and maxes at 120F (from idle 120F/max 180F).
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