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>"We have good security, our people don't kill each other". The latter is usually more directly helpful to more people, but the former has somehow become seen as superior.

Surely there is a level of authoritarianism which you wouldn't support? How far is too far in the name of safety? I suspect different cultures have different answers.

You also can't just look at the murder rate. Let's use China as an example, sure they have less murders than the U.S. (maybe partly because they are more authoritarian), but there are fewer labor protections. You may be less likely to be shot in China, but you are more likely to be killed on the job.

>I'd much rather be here than in America where I won't be arrested for complaining about the government but I'm likely to be robbed or threatened with a gun if I walk down the wrong street at night.

I'm not sure were you're from, but being threatened with a gun is not a common occurrence in America, it's certainly not likely--even if you are walking down the wrong street.

The US has a higher homicide rate than Western Europe, but if you remove gang members and drug related homicides, the numbers go way down.

The high murder rate is definitely a problem, but most of the Europeans I've talked to think it is something that middle class Americans deal with on a day to day basis. This is simply not true.




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