Yahoo and Mozilla Form Strategic Partnership

[xkiwi]

https://blog.mozilla.org/press/2014/11/yahoo-and-mozilla-form-strategic-partnership/

[SEJeff]

Yahoo search is just rebranded Bing search:

http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2329566/marissa-mayer...

[pvnick]

Considering both Mozilla and Yahoo [1] value privacy rights so much this can only be a good thing.

[bigphishy → pvnick]

I read this comment as sarcasm, but mozilla is dedicated to privacy rights. It would be helpful if you clarify what you actually mean.

Edit: After reading your history, I am astonished to see yahoo advocating strongly for online privacy. However, Yahoo is a profit oriented corporation, so I am naturally suspicious.

[pvnick → bigphishy]

Not sarcastic at all. Both seem to hold user privacy in high regard (especially Mozilla, obviously. It's one of their core missions).

[pavanky → pvnick]

You didn't add a link for that [1].

[pvnick → pavanky]

Good call, meant to add this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/11/yahoo-nsa-lawsu...

[bobajeff]

I think I'd rather Mozilla developed their own search engine since it's such an integral part of the Web now. Google search has immeasurable influence on web sites. As I see it it's as important as the layout/rendering engine in how we experience the web today. Mozilla using Yahoo's search engine is kind of like them using Opera's rendering engine. This is especially important as they now have a web-centric OS.

[manachar → bobajeff]

And how would they make money from it?

Right now search only pays if you do advertising. Mozilla's been using search ad revenue from Google and now Yahoo for revenue. If Mozilla gets into the search engine game they'll be getting in to the advertising game. And the advertising game is about serving up your users and what you know about them to the highest bidder.

That doesn't sound like a good fit with Mozilla.

[bobajeff → manachar]

Well they're showing ads on their newtab page. Also, they've been serving users to Google and now Yahoo search. So I'd say they've already crossed that bridge.

[ndesaulniers → bobajeff]

To think, "the Godzilla of Search Engines" [0] would finally become a thing!

[0] http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4578856/mozilla-ceo-on-the-la...

[billhendricksjr → bobajeff]

Great suggestion, but it would be very difficult and time consuming to do, no? Sure there are great tools to build on (Solr, Lucene) but Google and Yahoo have 15-20 year head starts on anything Mozilla starts building now.

[bobajeff → billhendricksjr]

It's not really a suggestion. I realize it's an expensive and far flung prospect for them to ever make a successful search engine. That still doesn't change the truth that without their own search engine they have to sit on the sidelines and let other companies grab influence over the development of the web and be in a better position to make web-centric products.

[rockzapper → bobajeff]

I'd rather Mozilla don't. Leaves them out of a whole lot of mess. DuckDuckGo is there to fill that void.

[KwanEsq]

Original discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8632749

[paulsutter]

Great business model Yahoo. Pay Microsoft to do the search, pay Mozilla for traffic.

[teddyh]

So they’re not getting money from Google anymore?

Adblock Plus to be bundled with Firefox in 5, 4, 3, 2…

Or, so I dream, anyway. But I’m sure that Yahoo is just as hungry for those tasty ad clicks (with their troublesome privacy implications) as Google is.