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I'm 52, married w/ teenage kids so I personally don't have a horse in this "race".

From what I can tell from listening to my kids, girls seem to own their sexuality more than they did when I was a kid. That changes things but I'm not seeing the sort of changes in that article.

I'll admit that as I read that article the idea that "these guys have no game" crossed my mind but I really don't know, I'm not out there dating.

Do people really believe that article? Is fluxquanta's choice a common one? If so, that's a bummer. Porn is fine and all but the love of a partner is an entirely different thing.

I have to wonder if we're talking about a section of society that has a tough time interacting with women (and understandably tough time, women are complicated). Seems like the marriage rate would be going down if this article is correct. Anyone have stats on that? OK, I googled and read for a while and while marriage rates are going down, the sense I got was it was mostly about economics, women aren't that excited about marrying broke people. It appears like the rate amongst upper middle class people is pretty stable.




> I have to wonder if we're talking about a section of society that has a tough time interacting with women (and understandably tough time, women are complicated)

Women aren't complicated at all. Women are people, just like men. A relationship with a woman is no harder than one with a man, you just have to be honestly interested in the other person. The core of the problem is that a lot of men keep seeing (and presenting) women as alien, as not-real-people, as figures who only exist for sexual relationships and porn. If that's your attitude, then dealing with women who want to be treated as people is going to be hard.




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