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Well, large corporations that are failing usually (but not always) get purchased, and subsumed by more successful corporations, or bailed out before they go bankrupt. Some examples of this would be RCA, Lockheed, Delta Airlines, Chrysler (twice), Enron, General Motors.[1][2][3][4][5][6]

I even found this convenient little slideshow.[7]

Here is a challenge: find more equivalently-sized government departments shut down for their failures. Examples of such failures would be the two dozen financial market regulators (as well as Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae) who failed to anticipate or mitigate the housing problems of 2006-2007, the various police agencies which regularly shoot innocent civilians (such as the LAPD), the department of Veteran's Affairs which caused untold suffering, or the education departments which have greatly increased spending without any improvement in outcomes.

Apologies for not addressing the second sentence, I wrote this reply before you had added that.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Corporation

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines

[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler

[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron

[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors

[7] http://www.thestreet.com/gallery/tsc-bankruptcy2-decade/0/ph...




This makes no sense. Say we shut down The LAPD or the VA. What would it be replaced with? The idea of a private sector police force is a little scary, and what private business would perform the function of Veteran's Affairs?

The point is that there are some things which only government can and should do. Shutting down vital services isn't practical nor popular. People wouldn't stand for it. If a the leaders of a city the size of LA decided to shut down the police force and replace it with something different, they would be immediately voted out of office. The government isn't some external actor forcing its will on the people. The government serves the majority, a majority that prefers that not to have basic services shut down because they aren't performing optimally.


I agree with all but your first sentence. Perhaps I am projecting my own beliefs on nickff, but nowhere did they say that government should not provide police or similar services. They correctly stated that the private sector has the substantial advantage of being able to fail if they do a bad job. The obvious conclusion is that Government should not do things unless there is a compelling reason not to leave it to the private sector. As you point out there is a reason for the government to provide police (and other services) that outweighs the private sector's fundamental advantage.


The issue is that if the public is unhappy with the police force there is no way for them to vote in a re-organization.

However in the private sector this happens all the time; either forcing one company to re-organize or a re-organization happens by a company going out of business and getting replaced with another one.

Voting for a politician (especially when you are stuck with two political parties) hardly constitutes voting for a re-organization.

Maybe there is a way to create competition in some way shape or form by having several different police forces (still government sponsored) that compete for your vote or maybe something else. But there definitely is a problem that there is almost no way to properly restructure a bloated government organization when it is underperforming, and somehow that should be addressed.


> The issue is that if the public is unhappy with the police force there is no way for them to vote in a re-organization. However in the private sector this happens all the time; either forcing one company to re-organize or a re-organization happens by a company going out of business and getting replaced with another one. ... But there definitely is a problem that there is almost no way to properly restructure a bloated government organization when it is underperforming, and somehow that should be addressed.

The public is unhappy with Thames Water, a private company, but no amount of private sector competition pixie dust is going to make another company start digging up London's streets to provide a re-organization.

It's not a problem with governments, it's a problem with natural monopolies and that's difficult to solve. Saying "government bad" is oversimplifying.




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