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I'll take torque and actual performance over sound effects any day.

Also, real "journeyists", wouldn't settle for less than a v12 ;)




It's sound, it's smell, it's feel. It's more of an experience than some number on a dial.

V12s sound good too.


I suspect if you could drive a 2,000+ HP turbine hybrid you would quickly change up your mind about optimal sound / smell ect. Advantage being electric gets you past the power lag from revving a turbine, gas gets you past the battery power density issues, and the turbine gets you past the HP/lb limitations of a v12. However, while doable nobody seems to be building that beast.


Meh, it all sounds like self-indulgent crap. I mean, I've always considered things like the Harley Davidson nothing less than butt jewelry, and direct A->B performance along an energy scale is pretty much all that matters to me. Electric can be boring as hell for all I care; in fact, all transportation 'culture' should be eschewed, so we can finally just transpose our civilizations away from the wasteful hedonism that is your modern auto-industrial society.

Now, if you want to argue that it is an Art form, then yes, I'm all there. I'd sure love to know what a 3D-printed Sportster rode, like ..


Yes, absolutely - many people merely want transportation and are thrilled with their Toyota-made appliances.

Thankfully that option is available to you, while those of us interested in other factors have additional options.

I would actually agree that a Harley is more about being loud than fast, and that rolling refrigerator I mentioned earlier would likely trounce my old musclecar in most measurable performance tests, except perhaps driving enjoyment.


You make a good point in a society where you can dictate to everyone what they buy.


OP sounds like the primary market for a hybrid Lada.




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