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Using CTEs, including writable CTEs is not something I'd want to do in an ORM. Also, whenever I find myself having to have more than a few expression fields, I find ORMS clunky.

Trying to load more than one record from a a single row is supported in some, but not all ORMs as well.

Aggregate queries, especially more advanced ones than just min, max, sum, avg, stddev, &c, are not always supported by ORMs either, or you need to use expressions or extend parts of the ORM. It's just a mess sometimes and I'd rather query and then load.




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