On: Your friends are lying to you. For $10, I wont.

[chrisseaton]

Maybe he just has 34 friends online right now and has asked them to up vote? Does that count as manipulation?

[nathancahill → chrisseaton]

Yes. From the FAQ:

> Can I ask people to upvote my submission?

> No. Users should vote for a story because it's intellectually interesting, not because someone is promoting it.

> When the software detects a voting ring, it penalizes the post. Accounts that vote like this eventually get their votes ignored.

[eli → chrisseaton]

Yeah, typically it would. Ya know the other possibility is it is legitimately getting voted up.

[minimaxir → chrisseaton]

YES.

Normally, Hacker News detects and penalizes stupid upvote rigging. I'm curious how the OP bypassed it at such a scale.

[dang → minimaxir]

Me too. I've gone over the data and if he's figured anything out, it's plumb fooled me.

Actually, judging by the ridiculous number of flags the post has also gotten, I think he just touched a nerve.