> Way to slam me without really addressing anything I said. You managed to say I was wrong and attack my character in one fell swoop!
I was trying to make a meta-point; I used your comment as an anchor. After re-reading my post I realize it might come off condescending and personal, I sincerely apologize. I stand by my meta-point though, i.e. most of the comments I see that enumerate logical fallacies are written as a way to implicitly attack the other commenter (I admit that my previous comment did exactly this to you), and are also often wrong.
As for addressing what you said: my belief is that the argumentum ad naturam here is justified given how the "natural" child bearing and birth processes are strongly tied to body chemistry, as well as being important in our culture since forever. It's not inherently special in an ontological way, but we are hard-wired to prefer it.
> Is there anything wrong with this? People should probably try not to argue anything that is obviously a fallacy.
Yes, because a/ just because something is a logical fallacy, doesn't mean it's wrong (see: fallacy fallacy, aka. argumentum ad logicam) and b/ you can pattern-match anything to some fallacy if you try hard enough, which people often do (one common failure mode is forgetting that all fallacies are defined with additional conditions that must be met; if those conditions are not satisfied, then the very same sentence becomes a perfectly valid argument).
> It's not inherently special in an ontological way, but we are hard-wired to prefer it.
I agree with you. However, being hard-wired for something doesn't make it right. One might argue humans are hard-wired for war, rape, etc.
>Yes, because a/ just because something is a logical fallacy, doesn't mean it's wrong (see: fallacy fallacy, aka. argumentum ad logicam)
An argument being a fallacy does mean it's wrong. However, it doesn't mean the conclusion is wrong. The fallacy fallacy is as follows:
A proves B → B (this is true)
¬(A proves B) → ¬B (this is the fallacy)
All the fallacy fallacy says is that "Just because an argument is fallacious doesn't mean that its conclusion is wrong".
It may well be true that "natural" births are better for some reason. I was simply saying that gfodor's explanation for why this might be the case is wrong.
Way to slam me without really addressing anything I said. You managed to say I was wrong and attack my character in one fell swoop!
>one can just pattern-match anything they disagree with to a fallacy and cry foul.
Is there anything wrong with this? People should probably try not to argue anything that is obviously a fallacy.