I've observed a definite correlation that people who like Hicky's simple/easy framework don't agree with mine. Personally I don't find it useful because it tries to separate knowing from doing.
I also seem to disagree with people who emphasize "expressiveness, flexibility, and power". I think they are mostly a selection effect: talented programmers tend to be attracted to those features, especially when they are young and haven't yet been burned by them too often.
With such fundamental differences we can probably only agree to disagree.
I don't think this manifesto and the simple/easy framework are even really talking about the same things beyond the basic point around avoidance of incidental complexity. I think both viewpoints outline worthy goals with staggeringly different levels of scope. In the case of the manifesto there's hardly anything actionable beyond doing lots of mostly messy research. I think people find this frustrating, but so what? Lofty goals often arise out of the conviction theres far too much momentum in the wrong direction. In contrast I think the simple/easy framework is something a working programming can apply to everyday tasks and while unlikely to result in a radical shift it may perhaps bring some of us closer to seeing that even larger goals may be possible.
"Personally I don't find it useful because it tries to separate knowing from doing."
What do you mean? Learning and doing are quite different.
From a professional programmer point of view:
If it takes me 6 months to learn a tool, and then the tool allows me to complete future work twice as fast (or with half as many defects etc) that is a great trade off.
Rather than just agreeing to disagree, you could defend your beliefs with the best arguments and examples you have. You're opposed to expressiveness, flexibility and power? That's a somewhat surprising view. I'm interested in why.
I also seem to disagree with people who emphasize "expressiveness, flexibility, and power". I think they are mostly a selection effect: talented programmers tend to be attracted to those features, especially when they are young and haven't yet been burned by them too often.
With such fundamental differences we can probably only agree to disagree.