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Did not Cameron just apologize for several deaths?

I have no issue with NHS on its own. It is pretty much average European health care system. But I hate smuginess surrounding it and connection to fascist state.




Fascism is a fairly specific thing. The UK has many problems, but I do not think you could reasonably claim that it is a fascist state. While there are some extreme nationalists in the UK, most people seem to regard them as a joke. Most people in Britain don't take its leaders and institutions seriously enough to give fascism ground to flourish. Fascism requires keeping a level of serious respect of the state and it's representatives, that leaves its supporters wide open for general piss taking.

Of course the UK does have some appalling bigots, some of them in positions of power, and it also has some appalling history, especially in connection to empire, but that does not make it a fascist state.


Fascism is not Nazism. One of the definitions is that government has total control. That is certainly case with SS.


One of the definitions is that government has total control.

That's the definition for totalitarianism. You need to couple that with populist extreme nationalism and state corporatism to really be properly fascist though.

If you want to understand how the UK social services manages sometimes to be quite so completely fucked up (and I am in no way denying that they can be scary fuckers), you need to understand the confluence of the British jobsworth, combined with really bad incentives. Using the epithet fascist doesn't really tell you anything about this though.

To put it simply, the professional penalty for wrongly taking kids away is much much lower than the professional penalty if something goes wrong through inaction. This is due to a series of high profile cases where kids died after not being taken from their parents. Unfortunately there are also a lot of jobsworth box tickers throughout the UK bureaucracy.

This is not all of them, but there are enough that when coupled with a system that doesn't really punish them as long as they are seen to be doing something, encourages some really dark Kafkaesque insanity.




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