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I am really sad for this guy...

Can someone explain to me why is he asking for donations? Doesn't the insurances cover with these expenses in USA?




Just because it is called insurance doesn't mean it actually is. The health care industry is pay by activity/procedure/items consumed, and everyone has a vested interest in others not knowing what is paid while (usually) increasing activity. In general everyone is spending someone else's money.

"insurance" doesn't cover catastrophic stuff (there is some) but also covers everyday things like checkups. (The analogy is car insurance covering oil changes and tire rotations.) You'll pay a deductible (eg $30), the insurance company will pay the health provider, you'll get half a rain forest full of numbers in the mail, none of which reflect who actually paid what to whom. (There are extra negotiated charges and discounts between various parties.) The health care providers try to make their numbers as large as possible.

"Insurance" companies won't make money if they pay out, so they have all sorts of limits. For example there may be annual or lifetime limits which are trivial to hit in cases like this.

The various estimates are that around 70% of bankruptcies are due to medical bills and that 75% of those are people who had insurance. Example story http://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148

This was my experience just trying to get some blood tests http://www.rogerbinns.com/blog/gplus/the-first-rule-of-the-a...


>"Doesn't the insurances cover with these expenses in USA?"

Insurance companies are like ISPs. You're fine until your usage pattern significantly exceeds the average.

At that point, the insurer will do any and everything in their power to drop your coverage and/or hasten your demise by denying or delaying treatment.

On a related note, this is why some of the people who are unable to keep their misleadingly cheap plans post-ACA should actually be happy. They would simply have been dropped anyway - when they actually needed that coverage.


Still confused...this is a terrible reputation for the insurance of this fellow. Aren't any insurance provider covering these kind of things? If so, why anyone would take a insurance that doesn't?

Sorry, but I cannot understand how a high skilled worker in a high income country has to beg for money because medical problems.


It's a whole range of things. I don't have a comprehensive link at hand and these questions are so heavily politicized right now in the US that searching is all but pointless.

>Aren't any insurance provider covering these kind of things?"

On paper, yes. In reality, no. I'm not aware of any sources of data on which, if any insurers are better in this regard. The insurers obviously have no reason to divulge this and the folks who experience are likely dead or dying.

>"If so, why anyone would take a insurance that doesn't?"

As the other comment points out, most people receive insurance through their employers, limiting their options. It's possible to self-insure, but prohibitively expensive for many people.

Even among those who are well-paid. The costs are high enough that it's quite common for married couples, particularly those who have or plan to have children, who could otherwise live on one income to maintain a one job "for the benefits".

Finally, there's an incredible amount of misinformation about how these things work in practice and about legislation like the Affordable Care Act aka "Obamacare" which aims to address some of the worst parts of it.

>"Sorry, but I cannot understand how a high skilled worker in a high income country has to beg for money because medical problems."

Medical care in general and cancer treatment in particular is atrociously expensive. Paying out of pocket you'd be looking at several thousand per month for drugs, thousands per day for hospitalization and tens of thousands for major surgery.

Even with insurance the co-pays and deductibles (amount the insured is required to pay) can range up to a significant percentage of those costs.

Unless you're fabulously wealthy, a terminal illness generally means living exactly as long as your insurance and/or the generosity of others allows.


Due to a couple of historical accidents, most Americans have health insurance through their employer--which means they get their employer's choice of insurer. And employers are not incentivized to pick an insurer based on how well the insurer works with cases like this.

It's pretty messed up.


There are all sorts of different health insurance plans. Most of them have a deductible, so you have to pay the first few thousand dollars yourself every year. Many plans cover a large percentage of costs after that deductible... say 80% ... which means that he'd still have to pay for the remaining 20% of some pretty expensive bills. (some plans cover 100% after deductible)

Some plans have maximum out-of-pocket costs per year... say $20k, some have no maximum. Some plans have maximum benefit... so the insurance company will only pay up to a certain amount... say $1M

These are just some of the choices, your history and where you live affect how much each of these costs. People choose their level of coverage and it's cost (or their employer does)

There are some cases of insurance companies trying to screw people out of what they are rightfully owed, but there are lots of cases where the coverage just isn't adequate for the issue and the bills are still very expensive.


I'm curious about why he would even need insurance. Someone of his skill, who has presumably received a six figure salary for decade(s?).

He would be in the wealthiest 1% of the entire world population, yet needs donations. What does that mean for the billions of others?


read the comment about his life in chicago - giving money to bands as one example. he's spent much of his life helping the larger communities around him - php and music are just two that have been mentioned.

We've got no idea what Richard earned, but saying "six figures" can make it sound fabulously wealthy. $999,999 is six figures. So is $100,000. $100k in suburban Chicago raising a family is quite possible, but likely isn't going to leave a whole lot of room for savings. He may have had moderate savings that were wiped out in 2008. He may have had savings and needed to drain those to pay for another medical situation in his family earlier. We just don't know the details.

1%? Hardly. Someone earning $100k might be in the top 10% - http://www.financialsamurai.com/how-much-money-do-the-top-in... - still obviously towards the top, but the phrase "1%" has other "occupy" connotations that simply don'y apply to Richard.


> 1%? Hardly. Someone earning $100k might be in the top 10%

I said top 1% of the world, not US. Someone earning $100,000 is probably in the top 0.1% actually.

But yeah, the rest of your comment is fair. I wasn't being judgemental about his request for donations; Merely pointing out how disturbing it is that despite his relative wealth, he needed help. This isn't a jab at him, but at the state of the world we live in.


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