> It does when it's a nanny state telling people to spend.
This seems to be an article of faith (and one using buzzwords with no objective meaning) for which neither evidence nor argument is offered.
> Second, this money is never just handed over to the poor.
Concrete proposals to do just that (e.g., Unconditional Basic Income) have been made.
> Here in Brazil, for instance, it's used to back credit programs by state-owned banks.
And there might be all kinds of valid critiques of that specific use of tax funds, but it would be fallacious to conclude from the validity of those critiques of that specific use that using tax as part of a policy to redistribute economic returns from the wealthy to the poor is universally improper.
> This seems to be an article of faith (and one using buzzwords with no objective meaning) for which neither evidence nor argument is offered.
What do you mean? The argument is my entire comment explaining what's happening here.
Brazil also has what would be equivalent to a basic income, it's called "Bolsa Família" and guarantees a certain income for families based on the number of members. In practice it has been used to manipulate votes, every election there are rumors the program could end so poor people keep electing the same (already proven corrupt) party that championed the program.
In theory those ideas are beautiful, but I'm not seeing it work in practice, and I'm cynical it can ever be.
> Brazil also has what would be equivalent to a basic income
No, it doesn't.
> it's called "Bolsa Família" and guarantees a certain income for families based on the number of members
Bolsa Família is a combination of a variety of traditional social welfare programs of the type that Basic Income is laid out as an alternative to, not an equivalent of Basic Income; it features a variety of means-tested and other qualification-based components. The part you seem to be referring to is a benefit with a fixed cash value per vaccinated child attending school to families whose total family income is below a certain threshold. It involves both means-testing (the family income threshold to qualify) and behavioral testing (based on vaccination status and school attendance) of exactly the type that Basic Income is laid out in opposition to.
This seems to be an article of faith (and one using buzzwords with no objective meaning) for which neither evidence nor argument is offered.
> Second, this money is never just handed over to the poor.
Concrete proposals to do just that (e.g., Unconditional Basic Income) have been made.
> Here in Brazil, for instance, it's used to back credit programs by state-owned banks.
And there might be all kinds of valid critiques of that specific use of tax funds, but it would be fallacious to conclude from the validity of those critiques of that specific use that using tax as part of a policy to redistribute economic returns from the wealthy to the poor is universally improper.