I didn't read it as him saying the two were mutually exclusive... I thought the distinction was between 'just a [CS major]' as opposed to 'hacker' (who may or may not have a CS degree) - perhaps I just interpreted it the way I wanted to - but giving him the benefit of the doubt, I think he was just saying he wants founders that are intrinsically motivated (by having a desire to build stuff) rather than extrinsically (by a degree program)
Agreed, thats why I said I agreed with his statement "If you want to be really good at programming, you have to love it for itself."
I understand what hes trying to say, I just find it really odd that he would go about it by labeling a group of people as if they were intrinsically different.
