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How did you go from "C with macros" to Dylan? I love dylan but its main draw is its object system, not macros or metal.



C could have meant a different syntax. Dylan is pretty well known for having macros without having s-expressions. And some pretty low level code can be written in Dylan. There's been some low level networking code by some Germans, as well as large parts of the Dylan runtime, including byte-level layout of method dispatch data. Looking through what he has so far in his repo (a quick look), a lot of it is similar to what we have in subject matter.




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