> That's perfectly valid, since those examples were first trotted out prior to that with no argument.
Except the burden lies with those wanting to add a right to privacy to the list of rights we have. The right to privacy simply doesn't exist. There is a right against unreasonable search and seizure. But that's hardly a right of total privacy.
> If it's so obvious why we should treat those as special cases, it should be trivial to explain why.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask you why you want to change the laws and protections we have now, and I think it's perfectly reasonable for you to be required to stand up to the questions being asked.
You've posted at least a dozen responses in this thread and it is plain you have no idea what you are talking about in almost every one of them. Are you unfamiliar with the 14th Amendment?
the Due Process Clause is also the foundation of a constitutional right to privacy. The Court first ruled that privacy was protected by the Constitution in Griswold v. Connecticut (1965)
I guess we could forgive you for not being aware of the 14th Amendment - it's not cited much. But it was the basis of Roe v Wade, arguably the most famous Supreme Court case ever:
Decided simultaneously with a companion case, Doe v. Bolton, the Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy under the due process clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion
Sticking with Wikipedia - they have a whole article on the Right to Privacy. As related to the United States:
The U.S. Supreme Court has found that the Constitution implicitly grants a right to privacy against governmental intrusion.
It is unbelievable that someone like you will post a dozen responses to people filled with such unbelievably false statements. It is no wonder people are downvoting you.
You're right, but that doesn't make me wrong. Only that we are saying 2 different things. I didn't mean to imply that you have no expectation of privacy, only that privacy as a whole does not exist. For example, in public, I cannot reasonably suggest that my right to privacy trumps your ability to overhear my conversation.
After all, while you elected to quote one sentence, in context, it's clear that I'm making a distinction between a total right to privacy and limits to intrusions into privacy.
"The right to privacy simply doesn't exist. There is a right against unreasonable search and seizure. But that's hardly a right of total privacy"
So, basically what I'm saying is that their is no simple right to privacy. Actually, the text you quote provides a link that explains it better than I obviously did.
"Although the word "privacy" is actually never used in the text of the United States Constitution,[20] there are Constitutional limits to the government's intrusion into individuals' right to privacy."
These limits protect aspects of privacy, not privacy itself. And that's an important distinction, especially in this context. If you explicitly had a right to privacy, one could argue that search warrants could never be legal, as your rights to privacy were being violated.
I 100% realize how my statements in that manner could be misinterpreted, and I don't fault you for challenging me on that.
> It is unbelievable that someone like you will post a dozen responses to people filled with such unbelievably false statements.
If that's the case, why wouldn't you assume you were misinterpreting what I said?
As for people down voting me, don't be too harsh on them for misunderstanding me on this context. As I said, it's reasonable that they could think that. Luckily, you made it clear you couldn't believe I would post something so obviously false, and looked for clarification rather than just assuming. =)
Except the burden lies with those wanting to add a right to privacy to the list of rights we have. The right to privacy simply doesn't exist. There is a right against unreasonable search and seizure. But that's hardly a right of total privacy.
> If it's so obvious why we should treat those as special cases, it should be trivial to explain why.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask you why you want to change the laws and protections we have now, and I think it's perfectly reasonable for you to be required to stand up to the questions being asked.