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The fact that drivers are regularly violating the speed limit[0] implies the bicyclist is responsible?

[0]https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Elk+Tree+Rd,+Woodside,+CA&hl=...




I think you've misunderstood that quote. The resident is saying that both bicyclists and motorists are going too fast around the blind curve.

Here is the intersection in question, from the perspective of the van that was in the accident: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Elk+Tree+Rd,+Woodside,+CA&hl=...

The van could have begun to make the left hand turn before the bicyclist even came around the corner.


http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/09/18/bicyclist-killed...

Definitely not. However, the woman in the audio clip points out that there is both a blindspot and the sun makes it doubly difficult to see people around that corner.

We have no context of the situation on which to assign blame. I trust the police and witnesses involved will help sort things out. Whether or not we assign blame on Hacker News seems somewhat irrelevant.


How do you know the cyclist wasn't violating the speed limit for that blind turn? Use Street View to go north of the accident and simulate traveling around the turn that the cyclist would have been going, and imagine the cyclist was doing 35mph. There's very little advance notice if a car is already turning. At 35mph, a bicyclist would probably need at least 100ft to stop, if you've got your wits about you, you might be able to slow down enough to evade or run yourself off into a ditch on the side.

This just looks like a dangerous intersection to drive on, let alone bike on.




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