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> yet there is zero evidence in their profits that any of these deals are netting a dollar of revenue

I'm sorry but I just don't believe you when you say there is zero evidence of them making money. They will be making big money.

Why on earth would any company license its technology for zero revenue gain?

> there is zero evidence

As noted earlier, from the latest Microsoft quaterly reporting figures:

Windows Phone revenue, reflecting patent licensing revenue and sales of Windows Phone licenses, increased $222 million.

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earn...

So Windows Phone revenue is up $222 million for the quarter, which means they are either selling lots of Windows phones or they're making money from their patent licensing agreements.

It must be one or the other. Take your pick. I know which one I'd choose.




It must be one or the other. Take your pick. I know which one I'd choose.

Windows Phone has been doing remarkably well for the niche it holds. I mean, it is in the dark shadows of Android and iOS, but a couple of years ago it would have been held as stellar smartphone results.

Given that WP is estimated to be licensed at between $20 and $35 per (even though shenanigans see Microsoft returning all of that money to Nokia, it still counts as bogo-revenue), and there were some ten million Windows Phone devices activated, yes, that sum absolutely is accounted for by Windows Phone.

And then you have the fact that Microsoft makes patent money on FAT (on every single device in the world that uses FAT SD cards and the like), ActiveSync (patent licenses), and their portion of MPEG-LA...

...there is remarkably little space left to hide the enormous sum they supposedly make from Android.




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