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Is it really that impractical to put the motor in the car? The elevator anyway needs rails on the side, if for nothing else to provide something for the emergency brakes.

Use regenerative braking on the way down so you don't need a counter weight - although that does mean you need a much large motor, you might save on energy, but power requirements would still be high.




Assuming that the weights of the lift car and the passenger load remain about the same, moving the motor to the car saves the weight of the cable, but adds the motor, power contacts, and whatever traction device (cog?) moves the car.

edit: completely overlooked counter-weight balance, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5887522

Adding regenerative braking adds some form of energy storage - batteries, flywheel, compressed air, or whatever. A flywheel might be lighter than batteries, but torque I/O might affect passenger comfort.

It would be interesting to see how CF holds up over time. ISTR that Kevlar rope is very strong, but turned out to have unexpected issues with repeated jerky load/unload cycles. Presumably the CF elevator cable would have adequate testing before commercial use.


For regenerative I would just dump it back into the grid. There are plenty of other consumers in a skyscraper, the meter would not even flow backward.

I'm also wondering this about CF - my understanding is it's strong, but has very poor abrasion resistance.

Even if you avoid external abrasion you can't avoid internal as the fibers rub against each other when they bend.




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