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"The long-term, progressive solution is to train people up."

This is just false. As computers begin to become capable of more and more jobs, the demand for human labor will decline. Automation is qualitatively different from mechanization. Education is a thin gilding on an impressive but non-optimal brain architecture. To say education will cure the ills of automation is a bit like saying fitness training could have saved workhorses from obsolescence. Workers of the world, you're fucked.




This reminds me frightfully of the Friendly AI Problem. Call it the "Friendly Economics Problem", if you will.

People often expect that Singularity-causing AI will have a set of pre-programmed guidelines about what to do (human happiness is good, killing all humans is bad, etc). It seems far more likely that we'll just use it to make money. If that happens, the Friendly AI Problem is exactly the Friendly Economics Problem.

So inevitably, the only thing humans will have to contribute to the economy will be consumption. Can AI be a consumer?

This is a critical step, politically. What we do now to the "useless" members of society will eventually be done to all of humanity.


Clever. I only figured this one out recently myself.

Here's the core issue: "economics" or "the economy" or basically any ideological, rule-based mode of controlling human conduct is all really just a massively-parallel distributed computation/program running on meatware substrate-nodes. The Unfriendly AI is already here, it's called capitalism, it already rules the world, and it runs on us.

The computer is unfriendly, and we are the computer. This is why it has become a political act to remind people that they actually do value things other than capital accumulation.


This has long been my argument for the long-term desirability of socialism.

But in my thinking, it's a bit more complicated than you make it out to be. Consumption doesn't really contribute to the economy in the relavent way; labor does. The only reason consumption matters now is that it returns the value of the labor's output to the capitalists. Then they can use the money to buy yachts and private planes and so on. Basically, consumption is a way of turning labor into general-purpose money. That's a fine model until you don't need the labor because you have all these fancy machines that can make everything (and design everything and clean everything and so on). So you lay everyone off. And then there's no reason you want the consumers because no one has given them any money to give back to you. You just make the private airplanes and swap them with the guy who makes yachts and call it day. And you're richer than ever before because you're massively more productive.

Now a few different things can happen: one is that everyone else just starts new businesses that employ the labor so that they can benefit from it, as sort of a second-tier economy, which exists until its elite accrue enough capital to build their own automation and the cycle repeats. That doesn't seem too likely. What seems much more likely is that everyone gets really mad that the current system doesn't provide for them anymore and demand a cut of all these robots' output. Maybe that happens voluntarily on the part of the capitalists (I think this is more likely, on reflection, than it sounds) or maybe it involves some government-sponsored coercion or a populist revolution. I don't really know.


> Can AI be a consumer?

Yes, AI can be programmed to consume. See Lem's novels as examples.

Of course, you can easily get nonsensical results.


AI can only consume if AI can earn a wage.

Maybe the Objectivists are right – we need to program our AI to be selfish.




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