I agree with you on not incentivizing idleness. That's why basic income is superior to minimum income. The difference is that a basic income is one that everyone (rich or poor) gets. There's no "welfare valley" (or plateau) where earning money on the market makes you worse off. Every $1 you make on the market is $1 (less taxes, which would go up under BI) earned.
I think some degree of discretionary income is useful, if only from a complexity-reducing standpoint (better to give the person funds than to regulate "how much phone" is necessary to get jobs and what is a luxury).
At any rate, I don't worry about the parasites we might have at the bottom of society if we're more compassionate. The costs they induce are a rounding error. We lose a lot more to the parasites we already have at the top of society.
No argument about the parasites at the top of society, but the ones at the bottom do incur far more than just a rounding error.
I've always thought the basic income idea is interesting, but I'm not sure how it could be made to work. If everyone receives a basic income, then those who earn more must pay back enough in taxes to cover their own basic income and then some. How this is really different than what we have today? People who receive government benefits get them mostly in the form of discretionary income. The argument goes back to "who" and "how much."
Well, one big difference is that it doesn't create those perverse incentives that prevent people from moving off of the dole roles. It also removes a whole lot of administrative costs, and it kills the issue of gaming the system. You get what you get, and there's simply no way to get more from the government.
I've been curious for awhile: in the USA, if you took Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, student loans, welfare and rolled them all up into one fund that was evenly divided to each person, how much would you have given out? Turns out the number is about $6-7k per capita. That's... not enough, but a pretty decent start. The economics suggest it would increase overall productivity, which would bring in a bit more tax revenue by itself. But taxes would have to be raised significantly--but not an obscene amount--to make it work.
The difference is that with basic income if you start working just a little bit - your basic income would stay with you and your total income would increase.
In current situation, if you start working - you are losing your welfare/disability benefits.
People at the Social Security Administration, which runs the federal disability programs, say we cannot afford this. The reserves in the disability insurance program are on track to run out in 2016, Steve Goss, the chief actuary at Social Security, told me.
Goss is confident that Congress will act to keep disability payments flowing, probably by taking money from the Social Security retirement fund. Of course, the retirement fund itself is on track to run out of money by 2035.
Goss and his colleagues have worked out a temporary fix under which the retirement and disability funds will both run out of money by 2033. He says he hopes the country will have come up with a better plan by then.
Does it sound like a rounding error to you? It doesn't to me.
I think some degree of discretionary income is useful, if only from a complexity-reducing standpoint (better to give the person funds than to regulate "how much phone" is necessary to get jobs and what is a luxury).
At any rate, I don't worry about the parasites we might have at the bottom of society if we're more compassionate. The costs they induce are a rounding error. We lose a lot more to the parasites we already have at the top of society.