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I would also add "lighten up" and "stop taking things so seriously" to the list of hugely degrading phrases.



It is often difficult to discern between those that will bring excessive drama to any situation and those that are in serious peril.


The disconnect here is a simple one: how big a peril Aaron was in was not communicated clearly or effectively on the page asking for help. Apparently this was because of some legal constraints. I think that's what threw a lot of people on the wrong track entirely. Had they been in the possession of the full set of facts I'm pretty sure they would have reacted differently. See the page for yourself: https://free.aaronsw.com/ , it is as non-descriptive as it could possibly be.

Even so, these careless and unfounded words must have hurt tremendously, much more so than had nothing been said at all.


> Even so, these careless and unfounded words must have hurt tremendously, much more so than had nothing been said at all.

It angers me to think that HN could have contributed in any way to the dark place Aaron ended up reaching. More so because many of those comments bothered me at the time and I neither knew Aaron nor the severity of the situation. They were unwarranted even in absence of the full story.


If you're depressed, the last thing you should do is read comments directed at you. The internet is a bad place at the best of times.

Anyone who's suffering should avoid negative sentiment or you'll just find more reasons to be depressed.


I'm sorry but which "careless and unfounded words" are you specifically referring to? Set among these events, and with a great many people assigning responsibility all over the place, this kind of thing strikes me as nothing like responsible or precise.

It was a fundraising post for legal defense. Not a plea of mental health distress. People expressed negative opinions of the request, some in light of the presumed financial position of the defendant. Are we seriously discussing review of those remarks simply for their psychological supportiveness?


"Man up" is pretty much always careless and unfounded. Not to mention sexist and insulting.


Not terribly long ago I had someone on hn tell me to "lighten up". Up until that point, I appreciated his sincere effort at respectful two way communication. At that moment, I decided he was being a dick and not worth talking to further.

I don't see where it matters if you can tell if someone will bring drama or not. It is pretty disrespectful to assume that someone making strong/emotional statements is merely a drama queen. They usually have their reasons for feeling strongly.


In this context, here's a hint: don't blame the sufferer. You don't tell someone with Multiple Sclerosis to just exercise more or a poor person to just make more money. It's facile and cruel and unhelpful.


Even if someone is bringing excessive drama, saying things like "man up" isn't actually helpful.




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