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Here is Oracle's corresponding disclosure: http://www.scribd.com/doc/103156565/12-08-17-Oracle-Disclosu...

I appreciate that it probably wasn't yourself who chose to include the term 'shill' in the Google document name, but your referring to 'the Google bloggers' is a bit misleading. To quote from Google's disclosure:

"Neither Google nor its counsel has paid an author, journalist, commentator, or blogger to report or comment on any issues in this case. And neither Google nor its counsel have been involved in any quid pro quo in exchange for coverage or articles about the issues in this case."

Contrast this to Oracle's retaining Florian Mueller as a paid consultant when he was backing their case on his blog.

(Edit: Clarified Oracle/Mueller relationship)




Do you have any evidence that Oracle payed Florian Mueller to promote their case?


Page two, line eight of Oracles' disclosure states that they retained him as a "consultant on competition-related matters." Although that isn't necessarily the same as paying him for "promoting their case", its hard not to get that impression when you read his enthusiastic backing of Oracle's legal theory as used in the case.

Nevertheless, I'll edit my comment to clarify.


Google's list is basically "here's a bunch of organizations which we're a member of or make contributions to." Some of the people within those organizations made comments about the case.

Mueller was directly hired and paid by Oracle. Whether or not he was specifically hired to comment on the case or not, that's quite a different kettle of fish to simply belonging to the same organization that Oracle may have contributed to.

Besides, it's not clear what "consulting" he has done for Oracle, but his expertise is patent law...


Let's be ultra clear here: Florian has no expertise in anything legal related. He has no law degree, no formal legal training, etc.

His expertise is in lobbying.


I'm curious why you think it takes a law degree or formal legal training to develop expertise in patent law.


Or, more to the point, that bloggers ever influenced the judge or jury?


Does anybody have any non-scribd links?





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