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The level of stupidity is really high in the linked conversation.

Seems like this industry is getting overrun by amateurs or simply fakes. My employer paid for CEH course at EC http://www.eccouncil.org/

The material was simple, inaccurate and outdated, aimed at creating script kiddies at best. And yet organisations happily pay thousands of dollars/pounds for this nonsense.

I think anon poster [1] at Quora summarized the course well.

"CEH is crap, don't bother and if you take the CEH cert, never tell anybody, they will laugh at you. It's like telling a trucker that you have a license to drive a moped"

1. http://www.quora.com/Is-ECC-Council-Ethical-Hacker-Certifica...




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