On: How to add a new syntactic feature to PHP

[pbiggar]

Indeed, fair point. But I think PHP's omnipresence is no longer the great advantage it once was. Its so easy to learn Ruby and deploy to heroku.

[stephenr → pbiggar]

One hosting site that's backed by another hosting company that has a history of huge, extended outages does not make ruby or rails "omnipresent"

I seriously question anyone who uses heroku for production anything.

[pbiggar → stephenr]

Right, but you're not using shared hosting for production either.

[jasonlotito → pbiggar]

I have sites hosting on shared hosting providers that have better uptime then Heroku.

They aren't big sites. Hell, they are little sites, with barely a trickle of traffic. But that traffic results in real, paying customers.

[pbiggar → jasonlotito]

I don't know where this idea of heroku having poor uptime is from. Heroku has excellent uptime - even during the ec2 outage most sites had very little actual downtime.

[jasonlotito → pbiggar]

> I don't know where this idea of heroku having poor uptime is from.

Heroku's uptime.

[pbiggar → jasonlotito]

Looks pretty good from here: https://status.heroku.com/past

[stephenr → pbiggar]

Plenty of php based web sites (not web apps, sites) use shared hosting